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Young Rudy foresaw 9/11-like threats
New York Daily News ^ | 1/24/05 | JAMES GORDON MEEK

Posted on 01/24/2005 1:22:17 AM PST by kattracks

WASHINGTON - Three decades before Al Qaeda destroyed the World Trade Center with planes, a secret presidential panel warned that Islamic terrorists might blow up U.S. jetliners or contaminate cities with radioactive "dirty bombs."

The Cabinet Committee to Combat Terrorism, formed by President Richard Nixon, even asked the advice of a young prosecutor named Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani testified in 1976 that the Justice Department, where he was a top official, "must take a more active position in combating terrorism," according to once-classified documents unearthed by The Associated Press and released yesterday.

Giuliani urged easing legal restrictions on domestic intelligence - an action not taken until the Patriot Act was signed into law weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, Al Qaeda attacks.

"Mr. Giuliani noted that ... there was difficulty in collecting domestic intelligence unless there was some indication that there had been a violation of law," the file states.

The panel found that another major problem involved a lack of communication between key agencies, said one ex-official.

"The FBI and CIA were not talking enough," Lewis Hoffacker, a committee chairman, told the Daily News. He invoked a complaint made decades later by the 9/11 commission.

The special panel was formed by Nixon after the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, where 11 Israeli athletes were killed by Palestinian terrorists. Members met for five years and developed scenarios involving attacks on Americans, but ultimately their influence waned and the panel dissolved.

Many of the documents from the panel, which continued into the Gerald Ford administration, were memos to Henry Kissinger, Nixon's national security adviser and secretary of state.

In 1972, Kissinger was warned that terrorists might acquire nuclear material for a crude dirty bomb to spread radioactive material throughout a city. "This is a real threat, not science fiction," National Security Council staffer Richard Kennedy wrote to Kissinger.

The involvement of Kissinger and Giuliani in the prescient secret think tank stunned some 9/11 victims' relatives, who have criticized the statesman and the ex-mayor for not doing enough to prevent terror attacks.

In 2002, Kissinger also was tapped by President Bush to lead the 9/11 commission before being forced to step down. Based on the new documents, his appointment then "raises new suspicions," said Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow and Bush critic.

Originally published on January 24, 2005



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: breitweiser; kristenbreitweiser; nixon; richardnixon
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1 posted on 01/24/2005 1:22:17 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Nothing came of the recommendations. At the time no one heard of Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda was far into the future.


2 posted on 01/24/2005 1:24:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kattracks; Howlin
Giuliani testified in 1976 that the Justice Department, where he was a top official, "must take a more active position in combating terrorism," according to once-classified documents unearthed by The Associated Press and released yesterday

Someone's been doing some digging into his past

Hmmmmm .. wonder why?

3 posted on 01/24/2005 1:28:01 AM PST by Mo1 (Liberty will come to those who love it)
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To: Mo1; risk
I think this "unearthed" documents are almost FIVE YEARS old. If I'm correct, the lawsuit stemmed from Terry Anderson's (former AP reporter) captivity in Iran.

"Among the most valuable materials are sensitive intelligence reporting won through a lawsuit by former AP reporter and hostage Terry A. Anderson, memos from Henry Kissinger to President Richard Nixon detailing terrorist incidents as they unfold" (Digital National Security Archive

Former AP reporter and hostage Terry Anderson was awarded $341 million in his suit against the Islamic Republic of Iran over his 1985 abduction in Beirut. (The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press)

Offline server
http://www.rcfp.org/news/2000/0330anders.html

4 posted on 01/24/2005 1:45:55 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: endthematrix

Thank you for that info


5 posted on 01/24/2005 1:48:23 AM PST by Mo1 (Liberty will come to those who love it)
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To: goldstategop; Mo1
True.

However, international terrorism-especially air piracy-wasn't unheard of in the 1970s.

6 posted on 01/24/2005 1:50:23 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

"Anyone at the beginning of the 1970s who forecast that terrorists would blow up jumbo jets in midair with all of their passengers on board, kidnap a head of state, run a boat filled with explosives aground on a crowded beach, set off a bomb weighing several tons in the heart of London's financial district, release nerve gas in a subway at rush hour, unleash biological weapons, hold a city hostage with a stolen or improvised nuclear weapon, or crash hijacked airliners into the Pentagon and the World Trade Center would have been dismissed as a novelist. Yet all of these events were perpetrated, attempted, or threatened."

RAND was the think tank that was commisioned by the Cabinet Committee to Combat Terrorism
http://www.rand.org/publications/randreview/issues/rr.08.02/thirtyyears.html


7 posted on 01/24/2005 1:59:39 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: kattracks

Since this article mentions it, one of my very Blue-State conservative hobbies is the fact that I am a HUGE film nut. I watch foreign films, independtent films, documentaries, etc. All kinds of stuff.

And one of the single best, most important films I have seen in the last few years is a documentary called 'One Day In September' by Kevin MacDonald. It isn't about 9/11, it was made about 2 years beforehand, but about the 1972 terrorist murder of the isreali athletes at the Olympics.

All I can say, is that it not only demonstrates the types of people we are fighting today, but it demonstrates why we should have been ready to deal with these types of people a LONG time ago. We should have known. Apparently, Rudy did.


8 posted on 01/24/2005 2:00:13 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz
" we should have been ready to deal with these types of people a LONG time ago."

Yeah, like when the Barbary States (Muslim terrorists) raided, kidnapped, confiscated and extorted from America in the late 1700's.

9 posted on 01/24/2005 2:22:23 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: kattracks

In the 1970s and 1980s FALN set off more than 100 bombs, most in New York and Chicago. That's what he was probably referencing.


10 posted on 01/24/2005 2:25:29 AM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: endthematrix
The second "Twin Towers" plot had several precedents, the most prominent being "Operation Bojinka", which-thankfully-was foiled before it came to fruition.

The Caliphate-a radical group of Turkish exiles living in Germany-also planned to launch a 9/11-style attack against the mausoleum housing Kemal Ataturk's remains.

All of these plots, however, had an antecedent in the she-ming of a supposedly psychologically imbalanced, wannabe assassin, who was a domestic, non-Muslim, conspirator.

Right now, there's a major Hollywood release based upon his story.

11 posted on 01/24/2005 2:29:44 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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Correction.

The above should have read "scheming."

12 posted on 01/24/2005 2:30:38 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: goldstategop; ALOHA RONNIE; Squantos; SAMWolf; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; American in Israel
Nothing came of the recommendations. At the time no one heard of Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda was far into the future.

But LZ X-ray veteran turned corporate security VP Rick Rescorla was teaching his Morgan-Stanley coworkers to file out of the building rapidly. He knew.

Thirty years after Vietnam ended, who's looking out for their fellow Americans? Who's teaching their coworkers how to treat trauma and evacuate wounded? Who's warning their fellow Americans about communist and Arabist influence on our media? It's the Vietnam vet.

In the 21st century, we are going to recognize that the Vietnam veteran will have saved us twice. First it was by peppering the Russians and their VC minions with bloody hell in Vietnam. Then it was peppering the MSM from the refuge of blogs all over the Internet during the 2004 elections. What'll be next? I imagine a lot of it can't even be discussed. Vets are nudging us here, proding us there, always saying, "Be situationally aware. They're coming for us. Get ready."

We should listen. They've been telling us what to expect, but we didn't pay attention.

13 posted on 01/24/2005 2:38:03 AM PST by risk
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To: Mo1

Hillary get his FBI file?


14 posted on 01/24/2005 2:39:45 AM PST by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: kattracks

The vilification of Rudy has just begun. I suspect "they" are digging into every single case he ever prosecuted, and every single word he ever uttered.

The dims are terrified of him and rightly so. He is the main threat to them in 2008.


15 posted on 01/24/2005 3:02:15 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

What movie?


16 posted on 01/24/2005 3:13:06 AM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: tkathy
TheDims may try to turn this into a vilification but IMO It shows he was far ahead of his time, and had his finger on the terrorist pulse back then.

Note the changes he suggested eventually came to be. Someone with this insight would be an asset in the WOT.

The involvement of Kissinger and Giuliani in the prescient secret think tank stunned some 9/11 victims' relatives, who have criticized the statesman and the ex-mayor for not doing enough to prevent terror attacks.

Of course they have absolutely no knowledge of what either of these men did or didn't do. And naturally, they ignore the fact that the clinton's administration did nothing.

17 posted on 01/24/2005 3:21:43 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks

Rudy is the only one, IMO, who could prosecute the WOT the way it needs to be. Nothing else is more important for the future of our country.


18 posted on 01/24/2005 3:24:18 AM PST by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: endthematrix

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364961/


19 posted on 01/24/2005 3:56:03 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham (Anxiously awaiting the coming of the Tupacalypse.)
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To: risk; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; bear11


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20 posted on 01/24/2005 5:57:46 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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