He's a worldbeater, all right (Mark Steyn beats up on the Dems!)

Chicago Sun Times ^ | January 23, 2005 | Mark Steyn

[Tribune7]

Whatever the reason, the sight of an old Klansman blocking a little colored girl from Birmingham from getting into her office contributed to the general retro vibe that hangs around the Democratic Party these days.

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[Neophyte]

President Bush will have four more years...

Yes, he will. But obviously, to be implemented the strategy designed by the Bush administration needs the election 2008 to be won.

Who in the Republican ranks could be a noble and logic continuation of his policy? Who is capable to win the next election?

[88keys]

Thanks for the posts/ping!

For some reason, this strikes me as amusing...

"Even "Eve Of Destruction," one notes, is a 40-year-old hippie dirge."

Kind of a nifty Steyn summary of what the 21st c. Dem.'s are all about!!

Except, the original article (which I only had the patience to "skim") is downright scary...how delusional can one get?!

[CyberAnt]

EXIT STRATEGERY = V I C T O R Y

[GretchenM]

Wish I could ping Peggy *I left my brain in the New York cold" Noonan to this piece.

[knews_hound]

BTTT

[Friend of thunder]

the sight of an old Klansman blocking a little colored girl from Birmingham from getting into her office contributed to the general retro vibe that hangs around the Democratic Party these days. Even "Eve Of Destruction," one notes, is a 40-year-old hippie dirge.

Ouch – that is going to leave a mark!

Just in case no one has done it yet:

Eve of Destruction

by Barry McGuire 1965

The Eastern world, it is explodin', Violence flarin', bullets loadin'. You're old enough to kill, but not for votin', You don't believe in war -- but what's that gun you're totin'? An' even the Jordan river has bodies floatin'. But you tell me, over and over and over again, my friend, Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Don't you understand what I'm tryin' to say, An' can't you feel the fears I'm feelin' today? If the button is pushed, there's no runnin' away, There'll be no one to save, will the world in a grave. Take a look around you, boy, it's bound to scare you, boy. An' you tell me, over and over and over again, my friend, Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Yeak, my blood's so mad feels like coagulatin', I'm sittin' here just contemplatin'. I can't twist the truth, it knows no regulation, Handful of senators don't pass legislation, An' marches alone can't bring integration When human respect is disintegratin', This whole crazy world is just too frustratin'. An' you tell me, over and over and over again, my friend, Ah, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Think of all the hate there is in Red China, Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama. Ah, you may leave here for four days in space, But when you return it's the same ol' place, The poundin' of the drums, the pride an' disgrace. You can bury your dead, but don't leave a trace. Hate your next-door neighbor, but don't forget to say grace, An' tell me, over and over and over again, my friend, You don't believe we're on the eve of destruction, No, no, you don't believe we're on the eve of destruction.

Barry sounded a bit bitter; he was wrong, we weren’t on the eve of destruction – and we are (please God) not now.

[Friend of thunder]

Good for you, wish I had said that.

[Friend of thunder]

Former Klansman Senator Robert Byrd

I have long said that if Byrd had been a Republican that would have been how the MSM would have described him.

[irv]

there's something silly and immature about a party that, from Kerry to Boxer to Byrd, can't get beyond spin, grandstanding and debater's points

Could that be why they keep losing?

[Gengis Khan]

.............the world's most populous democracy and a key U.S. ally in the years ahead. Which looks like the smarter approach now? ''Most Indians Say 'Thumbs Up' To Second Bush Term,'' reported the Christian Science Monitor this week, "and no, that doesn't mean something rude in Indian culture.'' >>

Classic Steyn: Two perfect analogies vis-à-vis exit strategy -- and two perfect examples of the same improperly and properly applied!

What a genius -- and, in India -- what a wonderful ally to have whipped out of the former Soviet camp!

 

Uh Huh! But I thought your idea of India is that it is a "mindlessly-violent, abjectly corrupt, systemically-racist and squalidly socialistic state". And you claim that you have travelled the length and breadth of India. So tell me how can a population of "ignorantly, mindlessly and systemically violent enough obscene-rationalization-for-treating-those-you-rob-as-lesser-beings cow-worshipper " possibly be your "wonderful ally "?

[John Lenin]

As usual, Steyn has more sense in his little pinkie than 3/4 of the liberal media.

[Stand Watch Listen]

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[Brian Allen]

Glad to have attracted your attention, I almost pinged you but decided to instead pray -- and wait and see if your passion and sharp intellect drew you to my post. They did. Good. Perhaps there is -- as I have intuitively believed since you fired your first volley at me -- yet hope for you.

A wider sweep of my many years of 'India comments,' by the way, would have given you a better perspective from which to judge. My critisisms are sometimes a bit jagged around the edges, my delivery-style a bit boorish and my response to personal attack a bit reactionary -- but am a pretty dedicated Indiaphile.

Back to your query: The few previous comments you noted talked to the 1940's India of the Nehru/Mountbatten Gang -- and especially to its simply bloody awful lying, looting thieving and abjectly-corrupt governing elite and "government" -- whose subsequent track record of absolute disaster [Insofar as, say, the quality of life of the Average 1948-2005 Indian is concerned?] speaks much more eloquently for itself than a poor fellow like me could hope to manage.

My remarks here -- which I note you have selectively rearranged and co-mingled with others from here and there [In order, I guess, to create the appearance of "evidence" in support of your own prejudgement and predetermination?] -- talk to the future and to the new post-Nehru-Gang/post-Soviet-camp India which in presently blossoming and which for the first time in more than 50 years draws on the Indian Peoples' enormous resources of intellect and of creativity, innovation, industry and productivity for far too long stifled, strangled, supressed and hamstrung by the mindless bureacratic corruption and red tape that has characterised India's past half century.

Remember that India's GNP only relatively recently overtook that of tiny Singapore whose only resources are of intellect and financial freedom and India's world-class creations, innovations and industries -- even whan added to those of Red-China and as measured by, say US Patents and by SE-NY and Nasdaq Listings -- lag those of tiny Israel.

But overtake Singapore it did -- and both your totalitarian neighbor and tiny Israel had better look out now that India's Peoples' chains are being shrugged off -- and a new generation of politicians are moving your nation's alliances into the Winners Circle.

And are positioning it to become a good friend -- and, in time, a wonderful ally!

Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

N'est ce pas?

<]:^)~<

Blessings -- Brian

[Gengis Khan]

Wow I am still having trouble beliving what you have written. Till yesterday my impression of you was that, you were a rabid anti-Indian like so many here at FR. And hats off to your superb language skills that I had an abnormally hard time defending my country's position that I had to give up the attempt looking at your obstinately held negativism about India and your salvo of besmirching remarks about Indian people, Indian education and Hindu religion. Till yesterday we (Indians) were not even worthy of being considered your intellectual equal because (according to you) our education has been "colored by systemic racism and blind prejudice" and that which is pass on in the name of education from our "socialist" madrasas is no less than "indoctrination" according to you. I am really unable to figure out the reason for the drastic "change of heart".

 

In any case it has become tiresome and futile for me to defend my country's position at every other India-bashing threads and hence dont mind me getting a little "personal". See...... thanks to your language skills I have even fallen for your deceptive flattery.

 

I still cannot believe if you are the same person that you were yesterday (spewing venom on Indians) or someone else has logged in by yourname. Yet somehow I am not so surprised as this isnt the first time I am seeing someone who sees India and Indians as filth but likes it when the same people declares support for Bush at at time when most other people around the world (including those from countries considered as "unflinching" allies) have shown him the finger. Most people are so ecstatic to see the possibility of having us as allies, no problem with that but wait till the next threads on "outsourcing" comes up. In these threads I get to increase my vocabulary with words like "Apu, Haji, slurpee, 7/11, dunkin doughnut" including one of your favourite "gunga din". And then it moves on to refreshing topics like dots, cows, curry, castism, starving masses and suttee. And then there are those who at the drop of a hat dig Gandhi out of the grave. (You know who I am talking about).

 

This is so typical of the people here at FR that I like to sit back and enjoy watching the hipocracy. Perhaps I should ping my other Indian friends at FR from the previous thread to have a look at your....."change of heart".

 

but now.........its time to be allies right?

 

Je ne sais pas. Qui vivra verra.

[alwaysconservative]

Thanks for the ping, Pokey!

[MeekOneGOP]

hehe! :^D

Mornin'! I'm back. :^)

[MeekOneGOP]

I have long said that if Byrd had been a Republican that would have
been how the MSM would have described him.

OH, yeah. No doubt about it. Case in point is the way they rode over
Trent Lott over his comments to Strom Thurman at Strom's 100th
birthday.

[DuncanWaring]

With regard to Ms. Kopechne ... I think the Senator was more inteested in an entry strategy.

[cubreporter]

You know we talked of that the other night. President Bush has been so great he's gonna be a tough act to follow. I dont' know who we have honestly. I know we'll be let down when he leaves but we'll wish him and his family healthy, love and peace. :)