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Bush strays far from Republican tradition
The Star-Ledger ^ | Friday, January 21, 2005 | John Farmer

Posted on 01/22/2005 6:14:11 PM PST by Destro

Bush strays far from Republican tradition

Friday, January 21, 2005

It wasn't a particularly lyrical speech that George W. Bush delivered yesterday at his second inauguration. It wasn't even a very Republican speech, for that matter. But it went a long way toward illuminating how far Bush has taken the Grand Old Party from its traditional conservative roots.

It was the most interventionist foreign policy speech heard in Washington in decades -- since John Kennedy's 1961 promise to "bear any burden" in defense of liberty around the globe. Bush's speech mechanics may indeed have been inspired in part by the success of the Kennedy speech and its focus on foreign policy in an equally dangerous time.

Domestic policy, as a result, got short shrift yesterday from Bush; presumably it will be dealt with in detail in next month's State of the Union message. So heavily tilted was the speech toward tyranny in the world that it seemed better aimed at a United Nations audience than an American inaugural celebration.

And therein lies a remarkable change for Republicanism. The GOP historically has been the party of restraint abroad, the heir to George Washington's admonition to avoid foreign entanglements. President Woodrow Wilson, a Democrat, had to overcome Republican resistance to American involvement in the First World War, and Franklin Roosevelt, another Democrat, encountered similar Republican hostility and suspicion as he tried to prepare the country for its inevitable involvement in World War II.

More recently, Republicans took Bill Clinton, another Democrat, to the woodshed for his involvement in ending ethnic cleansing by Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo and in nation-building in Somalia. Bush himself, lest we forget, won election in 2000 with a campaign that condemned Clinton's overseas adventure and promised to steer clear of "nation-building."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush43; destro; inauguraladdress; interventionisim; paleopityparty; w2
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1 posted on 01/22/2005 6:14:13 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro

the newark star - ledger:
"bush is really a liberal"
major case of penis envy on the part of the RATS


2 posted on 01/22/2005 6:17:25 PM PST by JohnLongIsland
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To: JohnLongIsland

They are starting a campaign to divide us so that Bush gets nothing done. As if its non-traditional for Republicans to love liberty.


3 posted on 01/22/2005 6:19:05 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Destro

Hello? New Jersey? Was anyone at the Star Ledger awake on September 11th, 2001?


4 posted on 01/22/2005 6:19:42 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Destro

This is a well constructed piece. With famous historical quotes bringing us through history. What this jack ass forgets to mention is 9/11. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't that change conventional wisdom on foreign policy forever?


5 posted on 01/22/2005 6:20:20 PM PST by slowhand520
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To: Destro

The author makes some good points.


6 posted on 01/22/2005 6:20:59 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Destro

Since Reagan, the GOP no longer fits the 'country-club Republican' stereotype. It's not a 'Bush' thing. He's just been handed the baton. The author has it wrong.


7 posted on 01/22/2005 6:21:43 PM PST by SolutionsOnly (but some people really NEED to be offended...)
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To: Destro

The speech didn't mention the UN, Old Europe, nation building or any of that liberal puffery. It was set squarely within the tradition of upholding American NATIONAL INTERESTS. At the same time, it reaches back to the founding ideals of America and also, the Republican Party itself. Its very much in our party's tradition of looking out for America's destiny.


8 posted on 01/22/2005 6:21:46 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Destro

Post the whole damn article.


9 posted on 01/22/2005 6:22:22 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Destro

What Republican president was an isolationist? I'm tired of hearing that Bush is bucking the republican tradition on foreign affairs. Reagan was as engaged abroad as any President we've ever had. What Republicans are they talking about?


10 posted on 01/22/2005 6:24:32 PM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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To: Dog Gone

It's from one of them 'excerpt and link' sites


11 posted on 01/22/2005 6:26:23 PM PST by deport (It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.)
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To: Dog Gone
Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints
12 posted on 01/22/2005 6:27:23 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: Destro
John says a lot without saying much.

It wasn't even a very Republican speech, for that matter.

Since when did a foreign policy that promotes freedom and democracy abroad become un-Republican?

From his comments, John misunderstood the content of President Bush's speech. He's not the first.

13 posted on 01/22/2005 6:31:02 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: deport
Oh. I apologize.

I still don't like the policy and am not convinced it's legally required, but I do understand the economics of it.

15 posted on 01/22/2005 6:33:43 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: slowhand520

Yea, I kind of noticed the 9-11 omission as well. From what I remember, it seemed as if President Bush was planning on a foreign policy that was pretty much status quo prior to 9-11. So much for Plan A.

I was completely supportive of President Bush's strategy of attacking nations which sponsor and support terrorists, if other means to persuade them fail. I'm completely supportive of President Bush's change in foreign policy, as laid out in his speech.


16 posted on 01/22/2005 6:34:10 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Destro
"More recently, Republicans took Bill Clinton, another Democrat, to the woodshed for his involvement in ending ethnic cleansing by Serbs in Bosnia and Kosovo and in nation-building in Somalia. Bush himself, lest we forget, won election in 2000 with a campaign that condemned Clinton's overseas adventure and promised to steer clear of "nation-building." Now Bush, if he's leveling with us, has committed his administration and his party to the most ambitious bit of nation-building ever undertaken -- the eradication of tyranny everywhere. Nation-building with a vengeance. It's a noble goal, make no mistake. We have to wish him well. But whether it's doable raises two troubling questions: Will he get any help from abroad? And if not, can we afford the cost (not to mention the global hostility) of trying to do it alone?

The fact that there was no mention of 9/11 and the legitimate resultant change in US foreign policy makes me question if this is an intellectually honest article.
Any worries about "global hostility" which I presume he means Europe,while we begin to cure the wound of radical islam that started festering 25+ years ago is of no concern to me.
Countries that consider a weaker US as being in their best interest should not be much bothered with.
We were attacked,we are fighting back and I am glad we have a President who has the vision to realize that a stable democratic middle east is not only a benefit to us but to the rest of the world including the whiners from "old Europe".

17 posted on 01/22/2005 6:36:09 PM PST by carlr
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To: Destro
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Anybody make any sense of this jabberwocky?
18 posted on 01/22/2005 6:36:50 PM PST by KMC1
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To: Betaille
What Republican president was an isolationist? I'm tired of hearing that Bush is bucking the republican tradition on foreign affairs. Reagan was as engaged abroad as any President we've ever had. What Republicans are they talking about?

Harding, Coolidge, Hoover, or so it's said. Also the Middlewestern Republicans of the Taft-Bricker stripe in the 1930s and 1940s.

Reagan came after thirty years of Cold War. In the early years of the Cold War, Republicans were still quite skeptical of foreign involvements. And even during the Reagan era, things looked differently at the beginning than at the end. In 1979 Americans were frightened of losing everything to the Soviets. So we had to get tough. After 1989 some thought we could do anything and take on any great foreign task.

19 posted on 01/22/2005 6:41:12 PM PST by x
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So basically, they are comparing President Bush to Republicans before WW2??? Do you feel that is a fair basis to say that he is straying from traditional republican policies?


20 posted on 01/22/2005 6:43:34 PM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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