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"DNA is not suspected as the first self reproducing, Evolution capable molecule. It is assumed that much simpler molecules came first. Making your precious math irrelevant."

No, suspicions and assumptions to not make probability math irrelevant.

Until Southack provides a source/link or the math under discussion, I will not debate his particulars since we have no idea of the whole.

google "amino adenosine triacid ester" It is a fact of chemistry that self-replication can occur with relatively simple compounds. The problem of abiogenesis has not been solved, but it is absolutely false to assert that known properties of matter make it impossible. Here's the real issue. Do you argue that because we don't have, right now, a plausible natural sequence of events for abiogenesis, we should stop looking? Your statement that it is impossible seems to say do. That is the real problem with ID. Not that it is wrong, but that it asks the wrong questions. Science asks, "Can anyone imagine how something could happen naturally, and can we demonstrate a plausible natural sequence of events?"

ID asks, "How can we calculate the odds of this poofing into existence in one step, under currently known conditions?" The ID question is not science. It is anti-science. It is hostile to inquiry. It is hostile to curiosity. It is fundamentally motivated by belief in original sin, the belief that the desire for earthly knowledge is sinful.

Science at its core is playful, inventive, imaginative and skeptical. Yes, science invents just-so stories. Yes, science publishes wild hypotheses. The difference between science and previous modes of knowing is that science puts its ideas and stories to the test. Testing is never over. Nothing is ever proved. Even great ideas like relativity and quantum theory are known to be incomplete.

But science does provide an enormous level of confidence in the reliability of its oldest ideas. And common descent via modification and natural selection are among the oldest, most studied, and most confirmed ideas in science.