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ABDUCTED IN IRAQ Four Months on Planet bin Laden
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Posted on 01/21/2005 7:09:55 PM PST by GermanEnglishHistorian

French journalist George Malbrunot spent 124 days as a hostage of Islamic fundamentalists in Iraq. The experience nearly broke him, but it also offered him stunning insights into the way jihadist groups operate. He returned convinced of one thing: America's policy is doomed.

Since his return to Paris on Dec. 22, Malbrunot has been the toast of the town, having private audiences with top political officials and sipping mixed drinks in the city's top locales. But, still, memories of his 124 hostage ordeal keep him awake at night. Zoom AP Since his return to Paris on Dec. 22, Malbrunot has been the toast of the town, having private audiences with top political officials and sipping mixed drinks in the city's top locales. But, still, memories of his 124 hostage ordeal keep him awake at night. The two Mercedes came out of nowhere. Within seconds, the car carrying French reporters Georges Malbrunot and Christian Chesnot and their driver skidded to a halt, caged in along the perilous road heading south from Baghdad to Najaf. The men knew this was a dangerous road. They had even warned colleagues not to take it. Now, they were pawns in Iraq's most dangerous game -- abduction.

Immediately, eight men in white hooded robes ripped open the car doors, tied the reporters up and threw them into the Mercedes. Luckily, both speak Arabic, Chesnot more fluently than Malbrunot, so they could talk to their assailants and plead their innocence. Right away, they declared themselves as French, as reporters, and as men who understood the resistance.

"We immediately distanced ourselves from the Americans and stuck to the French position," Malbrunot said Wednesday from his family's home in Paris. The two were taken to a small cell and interrogated for hours by masked men holding guns. "We told them we were French journalists and that we were there to do our work and show the realities of the resistance."

They thought being French would be the equivalent of a white flag, a "get out of jail free card" or at least a means of assuring a timely release. France has long believed that it has a special relation with the Arab world and that it wields more leverage than other nations. Yet not even their Syrian driver was let go until November. And to the shock of French leaders, hostage negotiators and the public, the two also remained in captivity. French news organizations ran the men's photos every day after their Aug. 20 kidnapping and banners with their faces went up all over Paris. The government sent several teams to negotiate clandestinely. Yet, still, the men remained captives for close to four months. Malbrunot is convinced that their "Frenchness" kept them alive.

"If we had been American or British or Italian they would have killed us," he said. "Being French was the best card we had." If so, then the second best was being well-known. "We had the feeling that our captors were quite proud to negotiate with France, such a big country. And I think it did help that our names were in the news. A dead hostage has no value."

Planet bin Laden

Now, safely returned to the arms of his Parisian family, he says over the months of their captivity, he and Chesnot slowly began to realize that they were "living on planet bin Laden." References to chief Osama abounded, he said, and there was much talk of living by Muslim law. Resilient, tough-minded and good-looking, Malbrunot, 41, became an instant celebrity in France the minute he and Chesnot, 38, disappeared. Now, a month after his release, he offers a curt assessment of where America's Iraq policy is headed: "Straight into a wall." He also has some blunt advice for journalists planning to cover the war. "Don't go to Iraq," he said. "You will be killed. No story is worth your life."

A clip from a tape sent to Al-Jazeera showed Malbrunot and colleague Christian Chesnot asking to be saved on Aug. 28. The Arabic writing behind them reads Islamic Army in Iraq and is the name of the fundamentalist group that abducted them. Zoom AFP A clip from a tape sent to Al-Jazeera showed Malbrunot and colleague Christian Chesnot asking to be saved on Aug. 28. The Arabic writing behind them reads Islamic Army in Iraq and is the name of the fundamentalist group that abducted them. Such skepticism toward the US presence in Iraq is not surprising coming from a Frenchman. After all, France opposed the Iraq war from the start. Yet, Malbrunot speaks from a slightly different perspective, one nuanced by over four months on the inside. For 124 days, Malbrunot lived his kidnappers' anger and mercilessness, and his life balanced on their fanaticism and on their ever-changing reasoning.

The two were imprisoned in a cramped cell, and Malbrunot admits that his vision was somewhat limited. Still, he says, his abduction brought him closer to the extremist underbelly of Iraq, closer to "these people who are extremely cruel" and for whom violence is an integral part of daily life. Free since Dec. 21, he still has trouble sleeping.

"They have weapons and money"

"These people will not surrender," he said, referring not only to the what he estimated to be the 15,000-17,000 member strong Islamic Army in Iraq which kidnapped him and Chesnot, but also to the dozens of other Islamic fundamentalist groups fighting in the country. "They have time, they have weapons, they have money. And, they are fighting at home. I am afraid it will only get worse, that they will get more and more power. It frightens me." What's worse, he said, is that in US President George W. Bush, "they have a great partner." Neither side is willing to budge.

During their captivity, Malbrunot, a free-lance reporter for the conservative French daily Le Figaro, and Chesnot, of Radio France Internationale, were moved six times, mainly shuffled about in the trunks of cars. For two weeks, he and Chesnot lived in a mosquito-infested cell with a corner hole serving as a toilet. Later, their conditions improved to one room with a toilet. The men never saw the faces of their captors -- all wore balaclavas. They were often handcuffed, blindfolded, interrogated, and subjected to odd demands -- including that they convert to Islam. At one point, they were told they would be killed unless France revoked a law banning Muslim head scarves from being worn in public schools.

Although he kept telling himself he would live, Malbrunot admits, a few times, he broke down in anguish and tears, convinced he would die. Yet often, he acted like a clear-headed Cartesian, cozying up to guards, trying to be friendly and extract bits of information about where he was, what was happening in the world and to whom the men were reporting. Four other prisoners with whom he briefly shared a cell were beheaded.

What do the kidnappers want?

While the men were held, all of France pressured the government to secure their release. Even Muslim women held vigils. When he was released and read all the reports, Malbrunot said he was "moved to tears." Zoom AP While the men were held, all of France pressured the government to secure their release. Even Muslim women held vigils. When he was released and read all the reports, Malbrunot said he was "moved to tears." Malbrunot is still trying to sort out his disjointed impressions. Before his abduction, he had never heard of the Islamic Army in Iraq, an extremely fundamentalist group with close ties to Osama bin Laden. Now he knows a lot. They are, for example, better organized and wealthier than he ever imagined -- even more so now than a mere six months ago, he said. Also, he says, they are adamant jihadists, convinced that they are waging war to defend the Muslim faith against the West. "There was a lot of talk about chief Osama (bin Laden), references to Chechnya and how the Muslim world is fighting the Western world in Chechnya, Pakistan and Afghanistan." Some of the men had been Saddam Hussein loyals -- including one who claimed he was Saddam's personal secretary.

The Islamist cells are also very compartmentalized, and they divide their work carefully. Some do the kidnapping, others the interrogating, others the judging, others the guarding and -- he assumes -- others the killing. They also have surprisingly strong contacts in Europe. And although they operate separately, they sometimes coordinate with other insurgent groups -- including that run by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most wanted insurgent in Iraq for whose capture the US has offered a $25 million reward. Malbrunot says that these fighters will not give up until the last of them is dead. As such, he sees little hope in upcoming elections on Jan. 30.

"One of our jailers told us they have four enemies," he said. "American soldiers and other coalition members, collaborators, which meant businessmen -- Italian, American or even French -- who are working there, the Iraqi police and spies." Any new Iraqi government, he said, will be viewed as an enemy, just as the Americans -- and even secular Arab leaders -- are viewed. The group's main goals are far from modest. They want to defeat America in Iraq, drive a wedge between Europe and America and "overthrow the Arab leaders in Egypt and Saudi Arabia and return to the caliphate (Islamic rule) from Andalusia (Spain) to China."

Staying alive in the hands of extremists

Compared to what Malbrunot has read about hostages in Lebanon and other places, he says they were well fed and cared for. Aside from one slap on the face, they experienced no violence. Their captors served them regular, if repetitive, meals of beans, chicken, rice, dates and tea. Still, each lost one to two kilos per week. Their jailers told them how to sleep in the proper Muslim way, prohibited them from smoking as it is against Muslim practices and said they were allowed to pray, but only in the Muslim manner.

One of the hostages' strategies was to get to know their guards, who always stood at the door holding a Kalashnikov. They asked the guards about their children, their families, anything they could think of. "My obsession was to drag things out. The longer we lasted, the surer we were that we would be released. But we were scared," he said. The guards were friendly, but "we also knew they could get an order and kill us the next day."

At one point in their captivity, they talked to the jailers about journalists, why they were targets and what they generally did with them. "They told us that with journalists they respect the position of their countries. We asked them why they don't bargain for journalists. They said journalists are enemies and we kill them."

Florence Aubenas, missing in Iraq. Zoom AFP Florence Aubenas, missing in Iraq. On Jan. 5, two weeks after Malbrunot and Chesnot's release, another French journalist, Florence Aubenas who works for the liberal daily Liberation disappeared while on assignment in northern Iraq. No sign of her has yet appeared and no group has taken responsibility for her kidnapping. It could mean, said Malbrunot, that she is not the victim of a political group, but that of criminals.

Land of war

The cruelest moment of their captivity came on Nov. 8, when their guards made them believe that one of them was to be killed. The waiting was excruciating. Each time the door opened, they thought one of them would be taken. Huddling together, the men held hands and made oral wills. They asked the other to deliver messages to their families. They cried. They prayed. Ironically, they both reconnected with their Christianity.

And then, suddenly, about a week later, the mood lightened and they began to hope again. In early December they were even given shampoo and allowed to look in a mirror for the first time. On December 21, they were thrown into the trunk of a car and delivered to French officials at the side of a road. For the first time in four months, the men saw the sky. One French paper, the Canard Enchaine claims France spent €15 million to free them. The government denies it, but nonetheless is embroiled in a bitter, backstabbing debate about what went on behind the scenes to secure their release. Malbrunot says he has no idea whether Paris paid a ransome.

Malbrunot and Chesnot -- who is currently in Jordan preparing to move from the Middle East back to France -- are now writing a book about their experiences. Neither plans to return to Iraq any time soon. One of the last things their captors said to them was, "Don't come back here. We don't want you. Iraq is a land of war."


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KEYWORDS: binladen; chesnot; france; frenchhostages; hostages; iraq; journalist; malbrunot
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian

Remind me why we give journalists for the other side free passage throughout the country?


21 posted on 01/21/2005 8:00:53 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian

"...he says, they are adamant jihadists, convinced that they are waging war to defend the Muslim faith against the West."

Who says we can't find common ground with our terrorist foes? They want to die for their religion, and we want to kill them.


22 posted on 01/21/2005 8:19:41 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian
What's worse, he said, is that in US President George W. Bush, "they have a great partner." Neither side is willing to budge.

He just said they were cruel, they were brutal. But George Bush is supposed to "budge"? George Bush is supposed to appease the cruel ones?

23 posted on 01/21/2005 8:30:37 PM PST by formercalifornian (Daschle b-gone!)
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian
They also have surprisingly strong contacts in Europe

Why is this "surprising"?

24 posted on 01/21/2005 8:33:28 PM PST by formercalifornian (Daschle b-gone!)
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian

"..."We had the feeling that our captors were quite proud to negotiate with France, such a big country. "

Big? Gee, they wouldn't have been proud to negotiate with China, India, United States, Indonesia, Brazil, Pakistan, Russia, Bangladesh, Nigeria, Japan, Mexico, Philippines, Vietnam, Germany, Egypt, Turkey, Ethiopia, Iran or Thailand?

Somehow they wouldn't get the same thrill out of negotiating with Bangladesh, Egypt or Nigeria, I am sure. It must be the French Mystique. Or maybe the French are just good at negotiating...they have, after all, had lots of experience.


25 posted on 01/21/2005 8:40:32 PM PST by rlmorel
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian
...and subjected to odd demands -- including that they convert to Islam.

This is what they want from the entire world.

"There was a lot of talk about chief Osama (bin Laden), references to Chechnya and how the Muslim world is fighting the Western world in Chechnya, Pakistan and Afghanistan." Some of the men had been Saddam Hussein loyals -- including one who claimed he was Saddam's personal secretary.

But I thought there was NO CONNECTION between Hussein and al Quaeda! None whatsoever! Isn't that what Barbara Boxer was barking to Dr. Condoleeza Rice just a few days ago?

26 posted on 01/21/2005 8:43:30 PM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: nuconvert

Yep, that's as far as I got.

I could pull nose hairs and have spent my time more wisely than trying to read this.


27 posted on 01/21/2005 8:45:07 PM PST by eyespysomething (I'm speechless here, but don't worry, it won't last long. Ask my husband.)
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian
We immediately distanced ourselves from the Americans and stuck to the French position," Malbrunot said Wednesday from his family's home in Paris. The two were taken to a small cell and interrogated for hours by masked men holding guns. "We told them we were French journalists and that we were there to do our work and show the realities of the resistance."

The French position is obviously to surrender and kiss A$$.

28 posted on 01/22/2005 12:39:56 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian; All
Here a short cut from Front Page Magazine (January 19, 2005) interviewing this guy."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16676

My favorite exchange is below. After trashing the Americans, guess what, well read it and enjoy!

"NP: Were you heavily guarded? Did you ever think of escaping?

M: No. To escape you have to find the right window of opportunity, there wasn’t any. Just once I thought that American soldiers could save us if they wanted to. It was Wednesday, November 10th . The night before there was bombing…no, it was automatic weapons fire from the Americans. And the Iraqis riposted. So they transferred us. We got a flat tire on the way, and I thought, if an American patrol went by…"
29 posted on 01/22/2005 2:12:50 AM PST by Chgogal
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian
They want to defeat America in Iraq, drive a wedge between Europe and America and "overthrow the Arab leaders in Egypt and Saudi Arabia and return to the caliphate (Islamic rule) from Andalusia (Spain) to China."

I sure hope this wasn't a big surprise to the journalist.

30 posted on 01/22/2005 2:25:25 AM PST by I_dmc
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To: oldbrowser

"He returned convinced of one thing: America's policy is doomed"

His own country is doomed! I read an article that predicted France will be 40-50 percent Muslim in twenty years. Very similiar to our situation with the latinos, but at least we don't have the head smiters.


31 posted on 01/22/2005 2:49:03 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: Wristpin
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It's astonishing that France still even exists. It's like they have huge surrender DNA repeats permeating their collective DNA:

A Brief French 'Military' History

Gaul vs. Julius Caesar - Gaul defeated by Rome circa 49 B.C. (Rome defeated the early French swine - the Frenchies had to Hail Julius Caesar as their new leader)

Franks vs. Vikings - From 841 to 911 A.D. the Viking Warrior-Badasses mopped the Frankish countryside with Frank ass. France surrenders Normandy to Vikings 911 A.D. (Stupid mid-evil France was easily bullied by real warriors)

France vs. England - 100 Years War 1337 - 1453 A.D. Battle of Crecy - 1337 A.D. (English hand the French their own asses in the start of the 100 Years War with the timely use of the longbow. French knights are mowed down like the cannon fodder they were.) Battle of Poitiers, 1356 A.D. - More of the same. Battle of Agincourt, 1415 A.D. - Henry V gets some French butt-whoopin' action.

Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

France vs. Europe - War of Spanish Succession 1648 A.D. (France tries to fight rest of Europe over Spain and loses to Frederick William of Germany)

France vs. Europe - 7 Years War or French Indian War 1756 A.D. (France gets beat up on 2 different continents by England and Germany plus the early future Americans - a guy named George Washington ring any bells?)

France vs. France - French Revolution 1789 - 1799A.D. (France kicks their own asses) Dr. Guillotine makes a handy invention that allows the Frenchies to chop off their own heads with amazing speed - thanks Jacobin Republicans!

France vs. Europe - Waterloo 1815 A.D. (Wellington delivers knockout to Napoleon - 2nd time. This comes AFTER the Russian Winter destroyed the largest army in the World and the U.S. conned old Nappy in the Louisiana Purchase

France vs. France - French Revolution (again) 1848 A.D. (France is still kicking their own asses on a smaller scale)

France vs. Mexico - late 1860s - early 1870s A.D. - France conquers Mexico. Wow! Amazing. What an accomplishment. Funny though, when the U.S. decided to enforce the Monroe Doctrine and in so many words told France to get the HELL out of our side of the world, they tucked tail and ran.

France vs. Prussia - Franco-Prussian War 1870 A.D. (William I of Germany kicks the teeth out of Napoleon III - good old Willy proclaims himself emperor of Germany at the Palace of Versailles - can you say bitchslap?) This all started because France opposed the unification of Germany - notice this starts a nasty chain of events that doesn't end till 1945......seems to me we can almost chalk up WWI and II on the dumbass French.

France vs. Germany - WWI 1914-1918 A.D. (Germany beats the hell out of France - without the aid of USA, France would be speaking German. France only won because of Uncle Sam jumped in - then those dumbass sore-winners in France impose an incredibly harsh Treaty of Versailles to 'punish' the Germans. Notice the resulting conditions of this allowed the rise of an unknown Austrian named HITLER.

France vs. Germany - Rise of Hitler 1933-1939 A.D. (Germany bullies France into letting them take more territory - the wussies wouldn't even fight over it - they adopted a policy of 'appeasement' - can you say SCARED?)

France vs. Germany Round II - WWII June 22, 1940 A.D. (France surrenders to Hitler at Compiegne after putting up a fight that made Polish Army look good. Notice Vichy France who quickly jumped ship to be friends with the Germans.

France vs. Vietcong - Vietnam 1954 A.D. (French Army at Dien Bien Phu surrender to Ho Chi Minh)

Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French."

War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.

Let's face it. When it comes to war, France gets rolled more often than a Parisian prostitute with a visible mustache.

32 posted on 01/23/2005 1:28:00 AM PST by Antioch
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To: Shermy
Ironically, they both reconnected with their Christianity.

Ironically?

33 posted on 01/23/2005 3:59:18 PM PST by marron
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian

BUMP!

Read later.


34 posted on 01/23/2005 4:08:56 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian

Where are the HUMAN RIGHTS PEOPLE?

Silent,as usual? Oh, except when they can imagine something about the U.S.?


35 posted on 01/23/2005 4:10:04 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: GermanEnglishHistorian
"Ironically, they both reconnected with their Christianity."

Atleast they saw Islam for the evil belief system it is.

I'd bet they almost feel compelled to be negative. It's possible their life still depends on it. It must have been a hair raising experience.
36 posted on 01/23/2005 8:55:44 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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