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What Is Bush Saying? (Speech confused even William F. Buckley Jr.)
National Review Online (may require subscription) ^ | January 21, 2005 | William F. Buckley Jr.

Posted on 01/21/2005 12:29:43 PM PST by baseball_fan

The inaugural address was in several respects confusing. The arresting feature of it was of course the exuberant idealism. But one wonders whether signals were crossed in its production, and a lead here is some of the language used.

The commentators divulged that the speech was unusual especially in one respect, namely that President Bush turned his attention to it the very next day after his reelection. Peggy Noonan and Karen Hughes, speaking in different television studios, agreed that this was unusual. Presidents attach great importance to inaugural addresses, but they don’t, as a rule, begin to think about them on the first Wednesday after the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November. But in this case, that is evidently what happened. And this leads the observer to wonder about some of the formulations that were used, and clumsiness that was tolerated.

Mr. Bush said that “whole regions of the world simmer in resentment and tyranny.” You can simmer in resentment, but not in tyranny. He said that every man and woman on this earth has “matchless value.” What does that mean? His most solemn duty as President, he said, was to protect America from “emerging threats.” Did he mean, guard against emerging threats? He told the world that “there can be no human rights without human liberty.” But that isn’t true. The acknowledgment of human rights leads to the realization of human liberty. “The leaders of governments with long habits of control need to know: To serve your people you must learn to trust them.” What is a “habit of control”?

An inaugural address is a deliberate statement, not an improvisation. Having been informed about how long the president spent in preparing it, the listener is invited to pay special attention to its message...

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To: gov_bean_ counter
His opinions, however on point, should not be given any additional weight because he is an "Engineer".

Agreed. I was just referring to your "brilliant" comment and having some fun. I am also an engineer, but not yet a PE. I also work with PEs daily-some are more "narrow thinkers" than others. The same can be said of many professions.
121 posted on 01/21/2005 1:40:49 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: bowzer313
The only thing Bush said in his speech that was "over the top", as Noonan put it, was his reference to the Koran as valuing freedom. We all know that was PC bulls**t!

At the risk of adding fuel to the ongoing emotional fire, that is precisely what led to my rhetorical lynching yesterday. Wanna see the marks?
Some things are better left unsaid in present company.

122 posted on 01/21/2005 1:41:48 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: kellynla

thats a good one....nice


123 posted on 01/21/2005 1:41:55 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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To: Publius6961

You quoted my words.

Then you state Noonan and Buckley are traitors that should be hung, in your exagerated fashion.

I think no one is ignorant of your intended "inference". Since you have nothing worthy to contribute to anything I said, I repeat I take it as a compliment. :-)


124 posted on 01/21/2005 1:42:07 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: cyncooper
And btw, it is really petty and juvenile for you to characterize those who were inspired by the speech as "knee jerk".

Re-read what he said.

He did not say people who were inspired by the speech acted in a knee jerk fashion, he said that many Freepers have a tendency to exhibit a knee jerk reaction of pile-on to ANY criticisms of Bush.

125 posted on 01/21/2005 1:42:22 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: LS

See post 63 - I think that is the meat of the argument. Thanks


126 posted on 01/21/2005 1:43:03 PM PST by baseball_fan (Thank you Vets)
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To: baseball_fan

Quoting:

"Reports from across Iran are stating about the massive welcoming of President George W. Bush's inaugural speech and his promise of helping to bring down the last outposts of tyranny.

Millions of Iranians have been reported as having stayed home, on Thursday night which is their usual W.end and outgoing night, in order to see or hear the Presidential speech

Many were seen showing the " V " sign or their raised fists. Talks were focused on steps that need to be taken in order to use the first time ever favorable International condition. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1325679/posts

Buckley may not get it, but they do. It reminds me of the reaction behind the Iron Curtain to Reagan's "Evil Empire" speech. The people in the gulag looked up and believed that maybe, somehow, help was on the way.


127 posted on 01/21/2005 1:43:05 PM PST by marron
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To: baseball_fan

Buckley is being a pedant. Most people would understand perfectly well what Bush is saying. Bush wants to convey a major initiative, not dot i's and cross t's.

Let's take his pet complaints one at a time.

>>“whole regions of the world simmer in resentment and tyranny.” You can simmer in resentment, but not in tyranny.

Why not? Whole regions are in states of resentment and tyranny. Resentment directed not at the tyrants, but at us, because they live under tyranny and tyranny breeds and misdirects resentment. Maybe he should have used a second preposition, but he saved time and used "in" in two different ways. Big deal. What he meant is obvious.

>>He said that every man and woman on this earth has “matchless value.” What does that mean?

I take this to mean the same thing as the Christian (or Jewish) belief that in the eyes of God every soul is unique and matchless. Sure, it makes no sense if you're thinking in terms of a cash register. But every life is precious, unique, matchless, because God created it for a unique purpose. Moreover, in God's eyes an idiot may have more value than a genius.

>>His most solemn duty as President, he said, was to protect America from “emerging threats.”

Where's the problem? New threats are emerging, different from the ones we are used to. Not Soviet ICBMs, but hijacked airliners. Bush is saying that we are confronting new threats and must change or methods of response. Moreover, we will continue to confront still other, different threats which we may not have imagined, because they haven't yet emerged. Does he have to give a long disquisition on all this? Isn't "emerging threats" pretty clear to most people?

Maybe he should have said, "It's a new ball game, and people will keep trying to change the rules." But I think he put it well, directly, simply, and understandably to all but hair splitters and grammarians.

Incidentally, I'm a great fan of John Milton. He's a great poet and a great master of language. And he does this kind of thing all the time. Look at what he says too closely and his syntax grows uncertain and his meaning unclear. Yet it's clear enough unless you are determined to parse it according to eighth-grade rules.


128 posted on 01/21/2005 1:44:22 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Sorry-the "brilliant comment" wasn't yours. I still agree with what you said though.


129 posted on 01/21/2005 1:44:30 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: Soul Seeker
thankfully we now know where Noonan and Buckley stand.

They didn't like the speech. What else do you think this says about them?
130 posted on 01/21/2005 1:44:39 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: LS
No, it's because your criticisms were groundless.

Why is it so difficult for otherwise educated people to grasp the concept of "opinion"? The fact that you have one does not destroy my ability also to have a differing one.

131 posted on 01/21/2005 1:45:13 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen, ignorance and stupidity.)
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To: Eva
Respectfully, WFB is correct again:

sim·mer ( P ) Pronunciation Key (smr) v. sim·mered, sim·mer·ing, sim·mers v. intr. To be cooked gently or remain just at or below the boiling point.

To be filled with pent-up emotion; seethe.

To be in a state of gentle ferment: thoughts simmering in the back of her mind.

The term is not the best at all for the thought Bush was trying to con-vie

132 posted on 01/21/2005 1:45:32 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: marron

The dictators, isolationists and elites cower as the oppressed world rejoices. Thank God for our President AND the American people that chose to give him the leverage to follow through.


133 posted on 01/21/2005 1:45:58 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: baseball_fan

Buckley should have been on with Pat Buchanan.

The Paleo-con view of America and the world is a pre-9-11 view, and has little relevance. Thinking in 20th century Cold War mode will do nothing to protect us from the ever growing menace of Islamo-fascism.

I recommend more David Horowitz, less Bill Buckley.


134 posted on 01/21/2005 1:46:10 PM PST by PJBlogger (BEWARE HILLARY AND HER HINO)
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To: NJ Neocon
I agree with Buckley, and you and Pub. The speech was full of nonsense. All style (poorly stylized), little substance.

Consider yourself one of the brilliant ones then. I'm of the humble variety.
135 posted on 01/21/2005 1:46:18 PM PST by Blowtorch
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To: NJ Neocon

I don't need to. I correctly understood it the first time.

But those who are complaining or bemused about criticism such as Buckley's and Noonan's are those who were inspired by the speech and can back up the reasons why by citing examples.

(was it reeeeeeeeeeally necessary for me to point that out or do you both just like to pick nits and pretend you've discovered some flaw in someone's thinking?)


136 posted on 01/21/2005 1:46:40 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: baseball_fan
Buckley's comments were more confusing than any part of the President's speech. The mention of a man being tried for murder (bad cases lead to bad law) after shooting someone porking (ahem, excuse me, "cuckolding") his wife (in mid stroke, no less) at the urging of a sick and dying daughter is on the far side of bizarre.

Like JFK's inaugural address (still hailed as one of the finest) Bush's speech focused not on details but on the underlying principles we will stand for in the world in opposition to an enemy that is intent on enslaving humanity. Bush used the word "freedom" more than JFK who, if I recall correctly and approvingly, spoke of "liberty". I'll leave it to people like Buckley to parse the differences between those terms but the underlying message seemed clear to me.

137 posted on 01/21/2005 1:46:50 PM PST by katana
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To: ClearCase_guy
In 2000, the problem with Bush was that he lacked "gravitas"

In 2004, the problem with Bush is that he has "hubris".

I thought the problem was :

He was an idiot

Now he is an evil genius

138 posted on 01/21/2005 1:46:53 PM PST by woofie (Proudly posting inane comments since 1998)
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To: rwa265

The man is not beyond criticism. For the love of God, if conservatives who support him cannot discuss his potential flaws, who can?


139 posted on 01/21/2005 1:47:24 PM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: Stone Mountain
They didn't like the speech. What else do you think this says about them?

It's not simply that they didn't like the speech. It's the fact that they felt so compelled to pontificate publicly about how they didn't like the speech. I expect the Dems to immediately rain on W's parade, but what drove these two to do it so quickly?
140 posted on 01/21/2005 1:47:26 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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