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Bumper crop for cops: Can secretly attach GPS - judge
New York Daily News ^ | January 20, 2005 | DEREK ROSE

Posted on 01/21/2005 11:01:49 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA

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To: patton

"Ahhhh, no. I can turn it on remotely. You might want to take the battery out...

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Depends on the model.


41 posted on 01/21/2005 11:56:36 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan

Look for both batterys. That little memory saver can send a fix...


42 posted on 01/21/2005 12:00:21 PM PST by patton (Genesis 3:16)
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To: mwyounce
" I don't know if you were aiming your comment towards me"

No not aimed at anyone really. I am just tired of losing individual liberties simply because we have invented the technology to remove them. These judges...........
43 posted on 01/21/2005 12:05:49 PM PST by oldcomputerguy
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To: mcg1969

You are correct, and therefore, it should be a simple matter of using an electronic "sweeper" device on your vehicle to detect the outgoing signal. You can then presumably do with it as you will, seeing as once it is attached to your vehicle (your property) it becomes part of that vehicle, and thus is yours.


A criminal has to be sentenced by a court before he can be required to wear a monitoring bracelet. This is nothing more than a monitoring bracelet for your car, and thus you deserve all the protection of the law in order for the cops to be allowed to legally attach one to your car. If they don't give that to you, then they have merely made a present to you of a (presumably not cheap) GPS tracking device.


44 posted on 01/21/2005 12:07:04 PM PST by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: oldcomputerguy

Understand completely.


45 posted on 01/21/2005 12:07:33 PM PST by mwyounce
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To: Little Pig
You are correct, and therefore, it should be a simple matter of using an electronic "sweeper" device on your vehicle to detect the outgoing signal

or....


46 posted on 01/21/2005 12:10:06 PM PST by mwyounce
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To: mwyounce

Just wrap it in tinfoil or one of those mylar bags that cpu's come wrapped in. Makes a faraday cage so the signals can't get through.

I'm wondering how the judge would like it if they attached one to his bumper? These people think because they're working within the system that it will never turn on them.


47 posted on 01/21/2005 12:14:40 PM PST by dljordan
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To: mel
I don't know about suspect's cars, but I am getting one for my car when my daughter starts driving.

You might get some mileage (pun intended) out of one of those "trip computers" that logs her acceleration and speeding habits :) But I hear where you're coming from. I wonder if perhaps OnStar is willing to tell you your car's location as long as you give them your password.

48 posted on 01/21/2005 12:15:30 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: mwyounce
Keep the cell phone battery unhooked....

They have a device that will remotely hook your battery back up.

49 posted on 01/21/2005 12:19:33 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: oldcomputerguy
I am just tired of losing individual liberties simply because we have invented the technology to remove them.

You will not like this.

They can see through walls.

Right now it is very primitive. They can only detect if a person is there.

Within 5 to 10 years, they will be able to see into your shower as you clean up, and the resolution will be such that they can comment on your "manhood".

50 posted on 01/21/2005 12:22:28 PM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: CrawDaddyCA

Thanks for posting this thread.


51 posted on 01/21/2005 12:22:29 PM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Jack of all Trades
That, and a huge potential for GPS detectors.

Stock symbol(s)?

52 posted on 01/21/2005 12:22:36 PM PST by montag813
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To: CrawDaddyCA
Cops without a warrant can secretly attach Global Positioning System devices to a suspect's vehicle, according to a federal judge - who said using the gadgets is virtually the same thing as following a car along a road.

well, shoot. putting a gps on a person's body is virtually the same as watching someone walk around so, hey, why not?

Somebody please put the "prudence" back in jurisprudence.

53 posted on 01/21/2005 12:23:12 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: TChris

I will second it.


54 posted on 01/21/2005 12:23:50 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Mike Darancette
Good idea! Then the cops will think they have to find someone who is headed out of town and follow the truck until they realize it isn't the car they are monitoring. Shh, lets not give away our secrets.
Really whoever likes this idea of GPS on a car without specific approval for a specific case should be monitored, they are crazy enough.
55 posted on 01/21/2005 12:26:39 PM PST by FreedomHasACost
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To: ßuddaßudd
So, its OK to tamper with a private citizens car without his knowledge. But, it is legal for us citizens to attach a GPS to the LEO cruiser and track his movements?

Excellent Analogy. Where can I buy some of these things?

56 posted on 01/21/2005 12:26:46 PM PST by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: Mike Darancette

Drive down to the truck stop remove device and attach it to a long haul truck heading out of town. 

I knew somebody would suggest that or similar A deserving politician or bureaucrat's car would be interesting.

57 posted on 01/21/2005 12:30:35 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: newgeezer
I have to admit, on some level, their attaching a GPS to a vehicle would seem to be not much different than their following the same vehicle 24x7 with the world's smallest, most maneuverable helicopter. It still doesn't seem right, though.

I agree. What gives them the right to touch your car? This country is getting scarier by the minute.
58 posted on 01/21/2005 12:32:10 PM PST by microgood (Washington State: Ukraine without the poison)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Anyone carrying a cell phone can be tracked..

Yep. But not everyone. There's several Web sites that sell cell phones and sim cards that don't have a tracking chip.

59 posted on 01/21/2005 12:35:16 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: montag813

To be determined.


60 posted on 01/21/2005 12:45:56 PM PST by Jack of all Trades (Sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.)
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