Bumper crop for cops: Can secretly attach GPS - judge

New York Daily News ^ | January 20, 2005 | DEREK ROSE

[MineralMan]

"Ahhhh, no. I can turn it on remotely. You might want to take the battery out...

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Depends on the model.

[patton]

Look for both batterys. That little memory saver can send a fix...

[oldcomputerguy]

" I don't know if you were aiming your comment towards me"

No not aimed at anyone really. I am just tired of losing individual liberties simply because we have invented the technology to remove them. These judges...........

[Little Pig]

You are correct, and therefore, it should be a simple matter of using an electronic "sweeper" device on your vehicle to detect the outgoing signal. You can then presumably do with it as you will, seeing as once it is attached to your vehicle (your property) it becomes part of that vehicle, and thus is yours.


A criminal has to be sentenced by a court before he can be required to wear a monitoring bracelet. This is nothing more than a monitoring bracelet for your car, and thus you deserve all the protection of the law in order for the cops to be allowed to legally attach one to your car. If they don't give that to you, then they have merely made a present to you of a (presumably not cheap) GPS tracking device.

[mwyounce]

Understand completely.

[mwyounce]

You are correct, and therefore, it should be a simple matter of using an electronic "sweeper" device on your vehicle to detect the outgoing signal

or....

[dljordan]

Just wrap it in tinfoil or one of those mylar bags that cpu's come wrapped in. Makes a faraday cage so the signals can't get through.

I'm wondering how the judge would like it if they attached one to his bumper? These people think because they're working within the system that it will never turn on them.

[mcg1969]

I don't know about suspect's cars, but I am getting one for my car when my daughter starts driving.

You might get some mileage (pun intended) out of one of those "trip computers" that logs her acceleration and speeding habits :) But I hear where you're coming from. I wonder if perhaps OnStar is willing to tell you your car's location as long as you give them your password.

[Lazamataz]

Keep the cell phone battery unhooked....

They have a device that will remotely hook your battery back up.

[Lazamataz]

I am just tired of losing individual liberties simply because we have invented the technology to remove them.

You will not like this.

They can see through walls.

Right now it is very primitive. They can only detect if a person is there.

Within 5 to 10 years, they will be able to see into your shower as you clean up, and the resolution will be such that they can comment on your "manhood".

[Robert Drobot]

Thanks for posting this thread.

[montag813]

That, and a huge potential for GPS detectors.

Stock symbol(s)?

[the invisib1e hand]

Cops without a warrant can secretly attach Global Positioning System devices to a suspect's vehicle, according to a federal judge - who said using the gadgets is virtually the same thing as following a car along a road.

well, shoot. putting a gps on a person's body is virtually the same as watching someone walk around so, hey, why not?

Somebody please put the "prudence" back in jurisprudence.

[Orange1998]

I will second it.

[FreedomHasACost]

Good idea! Then the cops will think they have to find someone who is headed out of town and follow the truck until they realize it isn't the car they are monitoring. Shh, lets not give away our secrets.
Really whoever likes this idea of GPS on a car without specific approval for a specific case should be monitored, they are crazy enough.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

So, its OK to tamper with a private citizens car without his knowledge. But, it is legal for us citizens to attach a GPS to the LEO cruiser and track his movements?

Excellent Analogy. Where can I buy some of these things?

[Zon]

Drive down to the truck stop remove device and attach it to a long haul truck heading out of town. 

I knew somebody would suggest that or similar A deserving politician or bureaucrat's car would be interesting.

[microgood]

I have to admit, on some level, their attaching a GPS to a vehicle would seem to be not much different than their following the same vehicle 24x7 with the world's smallest, most maneuverable helicopter. It still doesn't seem right, though.

I agree. What gives them the right to touch your car? This country is getting scarier by the minute.

[Zon]

Anyone carrying a cell phone can be tracked..

Yep. But not everyone. There's several Web sites that sell cell phones and sim cards that don't have a tracking chip.

[Jack of all Trades]

To be determined.