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Rumsfeld cancels trip after accusations
AlJazeera via Deutsche Presse-Agentur (dpa) ^ | Friday 21 January 2005 | Correspondent

Posted on 01/21/2005 6:32:56 AM PST by Woliff

US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld cancelled a planned visit to Germany after a US human rights organisation asked German authorities to prosecute him for war crimes, Deutsche Presse-Agentur (dpa) has learned.

Rumsfeld has informed the German government via the US embassy that he will not take part in the Munich Security Conference in February, conference head Horst Teltschik told dpa on Thursday.

The New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights filed a complaint in December with the Federal German Prosecutor's Office against Rumsfeld accusing him of war crimes and torture in connection with detainee abuses at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

Rumsfeld made it known immediately after the complaint was filed that he would not attend the Munich conference unless Germany quashed the legal action.

German legislation violations The organisation alleges violations of German legislation, which outlaws war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide independent of the place of crime or origin of the accused.

The prosecutor's office in Karlsruhe reportedly is examining the roughly 170-page complaint to see whether an investigation is warranted.

The Centre for Constitutional Rights said it and four Iraqis allegedly tortured in US custody filed a complaint with German authorities against Rumsfeld, former CIA director George Tenet and eight other senior military and civilian officials over abuses at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere in Iraq.

The organisation said it had turned to German prosecutors "as a court of last resort" because the US government "is unwilling to open an independent investigation" and had "refused to join the International Criminal Court".

dpa


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abughraib; humanrights; iraq; rumsfield
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1 posted on 01/21/2005 6:32:57 AM PST by Woliff
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To: Woliff

What a bunch of ass clowns!

This is the thanks we get for liberating Nazi Germany!

I hope the Iraqi's will be a little more....grateful in 50 years!


2 posted on 01/21/2005 6:35:19 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Woliff

Wow! He should go, so they can try to lock up the US Sec. of Defense.

The international fall-out from that attempt would be awesome! Our troops stationed in Germany could go on a for real troll hunt!


3 posted on 01/21/2005 6:37:35 AM PST by aShepard
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To: Woliff

A lot of the Rats in this country were disappointed because we did not go along with and sign the ICC agreement.


4 posted on 01/21/2005 6:37:59 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: Woliff

Will you PULEEEZE explain to me how a puffed up pissant country (or anybody for that matter) can dare to accuse Rumsfeld of war crimes?

They must first explain their silence on the million people that Saddam killed, and how about Mugwbe (sp), how about Darfur, how about Algeria, Burma, Indonesia...the list could on and on and on.


5 posted on 01/21/2005 6:38:55 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: Dudoight

it was a US based idiot that accused Rumsfield of war crimes, not the Germans. They are just doing the inexcusable crime of being PC police now........


6 posted on 01/21/2005 6:43:24 AM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Woliff
The New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights....

Time to introduce treason and sedition charges against the Centre for Constitutional Rights (interesting spelling of Center, BTW).

7 posted on 01/21/2005 6:44:49 AM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: Woliff
Hmm, now I'm not a 'Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US crowd', but get the US out of Germany now.
8 posted on 01/21/2005 6:45:15 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Woliff

I doubt the Germans have done the same for those that have killed, such as Saddam and all those war lord in Africa.


9 posted on 01/21/2005 6:46:25 AM PST by shellshocked
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To: ConservativeMan55

It was a US bunch that filed the charges. Granted, the Germans shouldn't have accepted them, but the US group was behind it. Isn't Ramsey Clark involved with this group?


10 posted on 01/21/2005 6:47:01 AM PST by livius
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To: Dudoight
Will you PULEEEZE explain to me how a puffed up pissant country (or anybody for that matter) can dare to accuse Rumsfeld of war crimes?

It seems that it is The New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights, together with four Iraqis allegedly tortured in US custody, is doing the accusing.

11 posted on 01/21/2005 6:47:59 AM PST by Woliff
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To: Woliff
The New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights filed a complaint in December with the Federal German Prosecutor's Office against Rumsfeld accusing him of war crimes and torture in connection with detainee abuses at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

If this isn't sedition...if this doesn't offer aid and comfort to our enemies then I don't think anything can. These traitors should be prosecuted.

12 posted on 01/21/2005 6:48:17 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: ConservativeMan55

Never expect gratitude. As Mark Twain said:"If you rescue a dog from starvation and restore him to prosperity, he will not bite you. This is the main difference between a dog and a man".


13 posted on 01/21/2005 6:49:14 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Woliff

UNBELIEVABLE! Got to wonder just how bad things will be for these leftists fruits.


14 posted on 01/21/2005 6:49:42 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: expatpat

Not even gratitude.

But..when they start actively working against you.............


15 posted on 01/21/2005 6:50:07 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: steveegg

That's the European spelling, used even in the UK.


16 posted on 01/21/2005 6:50:18 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Woliff
There is so much BS reporting posted at the top of FR this morning. What’s worse is that Freepers are falling far it hook line and sinker.

Rumsfeld does NOT cancel trips to real nations due to requests from phony little “human rights” organizations. This story is from Al Jazera. Wake up people!

Then there’s a story at the top of the Breaking News sidebar from World Net Daily (the Al Jazera of the right) in which the headline says “Russia Syria Work Super Weapons Deal”. But the headline's a fraud. It’s just an Israeli concern, not a fact as the headline pretends. Again mobs of Freepers are “fighting mad” just from the headline and want to storm the gates.

It’s times like these that I’m sure the old media will be around for a long time.

17 posted on 01/21/2005 6:52:05 AM PST by elfman2
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To: expatpat

I should've noted the country of the article source (though I'll still take odds that they use the British spelling instead of the American one).


18 posted on 01/21/2005 6:53:36 AM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: Woliff
Nazism (abbreviated from the German: Nationalsozialismus or "National Socialism")

The Nazis never left. They just morphed into their newest incarnation. Is it a coincidence that Rumsfeld is a Jewish name?
19 posted on 01/21/2005 6:56:04 AM PST by Arnold Zephel
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To: Dudoight

I can explain. Godless countries with Godless people exchange a faith in God for secular piety. Which manifests itself in the form of " Tolerance" "political correctness" etc. In order to raise yourself above the other memebers of the secularist cult you must show them that you are more " sensitive" than they are.

It started with save the whales... then uh-oh we did, so they needed something else to worship, so it was ... no nukes... then the soviets fell.... then it was...save the rain forest... then ....finally "save the earth"

Everyone is trying to show that they are more pius than the next guy ( eccencially to get chicks into bed) so they have to go to larger and larger (gods) to be sensitive too.

So accusing the secretary of defense of the most powerful nation on earth, by a country that murdered millions, and will not now send their troups to help others fulfills that secular religious ritual. " They will show the world how "sensitive" they are by accusing our country of evil as if we are no different than terrorists.

hows that for an explination ?


20 posted on 01/21/2005 6:56:34 AM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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