[Earthdweller]

"WHOSE Iraqi government? The Sunni Baathist government? The Shi'ite government? The Kurdish government? There is no national identity in Iraq, only group identity. That is why it took a monster like Saddam Hussein to hold Iraq together--Iraq was held together by the glue of brute force. With that force removed by the US, Iraq is reverting to a Hobbesian state of nature. Iraq is not a natural nation; it was cobbled together on a drawing room map from the detritus of the Turkish empire."
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I suggest you rent the movie "Gangs of New York" if you think our republic was not molded from the fire of violence, stupidity and mob rule in the beginning. Remember the Wild West? Have you no patience to see how they might do?

[syriacus]

Have you no patience to see how they might do?

Good question to ask many of the folks on Capitol Hill and in the MSM, too.

[iconoclast]

I suggest you rent the movie "Gangs of New York" if you think our republic was not molded from the fire of violence, stupidity and mob rule in the beginning. Remember the Wild West?

And I suggest you read more books and watch fewer movies.