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Peggy Noonan: Way Too Much God (Freepers let's tell her our thoughts)
WSJ ^ | 1/21/05 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/21/2005 4:19:45 AM PST by Mikmur

PEGGY NOONAN

Way Too Much God Was the president's speech a case of "mission inebriation"?

The inaugural address itself was startling. It left me with a bad feeling, and reluctant dislike. Rhetorically, it veered from high-class boilerplate to strong and simple sentences, but it was not pedestrian. George W. Bush's second inaugural will no doubt prove historic because it carried a punch, asserting an agenda so sweeping that an observer quipped that by the end he would not have been surprised if the president had announced we were going to colonize Mars. A short and self-conscious preamble led quickly to the meat of the speech: the president's evolving thoughts on freedom in the world. Those thoughts seemed marked by deep moral seriousness and no moral modesty.

The president's speech seemed rather heavenish. It was a God-drenched speech. This president, who has been accused of giving too much attention to religious imagery and religious thought, has not let the criticism enter him. God was invoked relentlessly. "The Author of Liberty." "God moves and chooses as He wills. We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind . . . the longing of the soul."

And yet such promising moments were followed by this, the ending of the speech. "Renewed in our strength--tested, but not weary--we are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." This is--how else to put it?--over the top. It is the kind of sentence that makes you wonder if this White House did not, in the preparation period, have a case of what I have called in the past "mission inebriation." A sense that there are few legitimate boundaries to the desires born in the goodness of their good hearts.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfold; god; gwbanointed; inauguraladdress; inauguration; noonan; peggydowd; president; shesrightguys; w2
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Sorry for the double post!! Let's let her know what we think.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/

361 posted on 01/21/2005 11:36:41 AM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift my eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: Mikmur
Peggy has been a charming person and a good writer. However, Peggy does not get paid for thinking or leading, she gets paid to put someone's thoughts into words.

Lately she's been "cranky" as one poster wrote. Perhaps she was left out of something or was upset that she wasn't an official member of the campaign team. Whatever it is, it's coming thru in her writings of late.

362 posted on 01/21/2005 11:44:27 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Lord Basil

FACTS ABOUT INAUGURAL SPEECHES: - Lincoln’s 2d inaugural address used word “God” 14 times. Ronald Reagan’s 2d inaugural address used word ''freedom'' 12 times. Clinton’s 2d inaugural used word “consensual” 16 times.
Bush's 2nd inaugural address used the word "freedom" 27 times, "Liberty", 15 times. "God", 3 times, "consensual", 0 times.


363 posted on 01/21/2005 11:46:43 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: buzznut

Yep, those Americans won't last.


364 posted on 01/21/2005 11:48:23 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: 1Old Pro
Clinton’s 2d inaugural used word “consensual” 16 times.

You're killing me - stop, please!

365 posted on 01/21/2005 11:50:03 AM PST by grassboots.org (Too much Koran, but not too much God...)
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To: iconoclast

You don't call supporting dictators for pragmatic Cold War reasons different than supporting those living under dictators for pragmatic post Cold War reasons?


366 posted on 01/21/2005 11:50:07 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: quidnunc
She really annoys me with that soft, gooey (and supercilious) attitude of hers.

Yep, like she's on a constant mellow yellow OD

367 posted on 01/21/2005 12:03:24 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: grassboots.org

It is odd having Peggy react as she has. Perhaps she's mad (jealous?) that President Bush is extending Reagan's line to the rest of the tyrants and dictators around the globe. Obviously, that doesn't make sense, nor do her comments.


368 posted on 01/21/2005 12:06:11 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: AndyJackson
In a politician I want less of the "I am hearing voices" stuff and more specifics of what the voices are telling him to do.

I agree, and I did not find the speech inspiring.

If we care so much about freedom, how about taking clear steps to increase it in areas where the government can have an influence? For example, we could eliminate sugar tariffs and bring a little more economic freedom to the third world. Or we could eliminate export subsidies and bring more freedom to our commercial relations with the developed world. How about eliminating support for the World bank and IMF, whose authoritarian meddling has wrecked many countries?

A big emphasis on tax reform and retirement savings reform would have been a concrete vision of how America can take steps to increase freedom.

I think the world might easily conclude from the president's words that he believes that, primarily, America should be ready with our military when our definition of political freedom is impinged, because God wants it that way.

369 posted on 01/21/2005 12:26:09 PM PST by SupplySider
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To: grassboots.org

Touche'!!


370 posted on 01/21/2005 12:56:13 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: Mikmur

"As for the ending; isn't it accepted that America was founded under God to spread freedom and liberty, both religious and economic?"

No, I doubt it is "accepted" by very many, beyond the religious faction, of Bush's party.

Many Republicans and conservatives are not among those, who insist everything political and American must be heavily infused with Christian religious references.


371 posted on 01/21/2005 1:06:24 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: TheDon
Other than Israel, what democracies are supporting us? We recently sh!t in Blair's hat, so I wouldn't count on Britain in the future. BTW, Europe is on fire with indignation, and Israel is jubilant. What does that tell you?

Meantime we're in bed with the Saudis and Pakistan for the foreseeable future.

This is the most frightening, out of touch with reality speech I've heard in over sixty years. If Bush had a brain, I'd call him mad.

372 posted on 01/21/2005 1:22:36 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: AndyJackson
Ah, but we have God on our side. That is a first. It really is, isn't it?

Smile when you say that, pardner. ;o)

373 posted on 01/21/2005 1:24:14 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Mikmur
I disagree with her that the end was neccesarily "over the top". I'd agree that there was a little too much God in there. I'd emphatically disagree with those here who think the President should not have nodded towards American Muslims.

IIRC, Peggy has recently become somewhat religious herself. She's not areligious like me, let alone anti-religious. Her praise for the singing of GBA indicates this.

However, she does seem to understand, as President Reagan did, that some of the fragilest parts of the conservative coalition are people who believe in limited government and an assertive foreign policy....but are not devoutly religious and are indeed concerned about religion-based social/cultural laws.

The idea that there was envy here is silly. No speechwriter who wrote Ronald Reagan's D-Day speech needs ever be envious of anyone.

-Eric

374 posted on 01/21/2005 1:26:12 PM PST by E Rocc (Leftists look at liberty the way Christians look at sin.)
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To: Marysecretary

"One of my favorite singers, a black Christian man, Wentley Phipps sang one of the songs. He is outstanding. He narrates beautifully. You should hear his narration about Amazing Grace. Outstanding. It's on one of the Gaither Homecoming videos. I always cry when I hear it."

Thank you for telling me his name, yes he was awesome.


375 posted on 01/21/2005 1:29:17 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: syriacus
I know what you mean. I feel the same way about Brit Hume and Michael Barone.

Like 'em both, along with Mort Kondracke, and John what's-his-name at 5 on Fox, and. oh yeah, Lou Dobbs on CNN.

My print folks are Bob Novak, John Leo, Michelle Malkin, De Borchgrave, Pat Buchanan, Joe Sobran, and Dave Barry.

376 posted on 01/21/2005 1:33:51 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: TheDon

I was referring to post 911.


377 posted on 01/21/2005 1:41:18 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Terriergal
How can you have "too much God?"

I'd refer you to David Koresh but it's a little late.

378 posted on 01/21/2005 1:48:00 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Mikmur
"I cannot believe that a non-liberal would bash this speech."

Here's a hint: Using American power to dictate the governmental structure of other sovereign nations is not a "conservative" idea...

379 posted on 01/21/2005 1:50:32 PM PST by lugsoul (Until at last I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
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To: iconoclast
What does that tell you?

France, Germany, and Russia were all in on the "take" with Saddam, and they are mad we called them on it, and stopped the gravy train. They will repent, we will forgive, and all will be well again.

Meantime we're in bed with the Saudis and Pakistan for the foreseeable future.

I was thinking of the Saudis as I listened to the speech. But you are right, they are not the only ones. I think he spent a long time on this topic to be sure everyone, and I mean everyone, got the message. Times are a changing. It may not happen overnight, as you may prefer, but it will be changing. I look forward to the unfolding of this new policy under the new Sec of State.

It would be foolish to think we will bully around those we are marginally allies with. There is no need for military force in most cases. If you want to understand how President Bush might go about implementing this new foreign policy, read "The Case for Democracy".

This is the most frightening, out of touch with reality speech I've heard in over sixty years.

LOL! I guess you missed the Reagan presidency.

380 posted on 01/21/2005 1:59:53 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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