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Peggy Noonan: Way Too Much God (Freepers let's tell her our thoughts)
WSJ ^ | 1/21/05 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/21/2005 4:19:45 AM PST by Mikmur

PEGGY NOONAN

Way Too Much God Was the president's speech a case of "mission inebriation"?

The inaugural address itself was startling. It left me with a bad feeling, and reluctant dislike. Rhetorically, it veered from high-class boilerplate to strong and simple sentences, but it was not pedestrian. George W. Bush's second inaugural will no doubt prove historic because it carried a punch, asserting an agenda so sweeping that an observer quipped that by the end he would not have been surprised if the president had announced we were going to colonize Mars. A short and self-conscious preamble led quickly to the meat of the speech: the president's evolving thoughts on freedom in the world. Those thoughts seemed marked by deep moral seriousness and no moral modesty.

The president's speech seemed rather heavenish. It was a God-drenched speech. This president, who has been accused of giving too much attention to religious imagery and religious thought, has not let the criticism enter him. God was invoked relentlessly. "The Author of Liberty." "God moves and chooses as He wills. We have confidence because freedom is the permanent hope of mankind . . . the longing of the soul."

And yet such promising moments were followed by this, the ending of the speech. "Renewed in our strength--tested, but not weary--we are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." This is--how else to put it?--over the top. It is the kind of sentence that makes you wonder if this White House did not, in the preparation period, have a case of what I have called in the past "mission inebriation." A sense that there are few legitimate boundaries to the desires born in the goodness of their good hearts.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfold; god; gwbanointed; inauguraladdress; inauguration; noonan; peggydowd; president; shesrightguys; w2
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To: Just mythoughts
Sorry - I thought I even checked it out and found it was yours. Oh well, brain running low on batteries. Probably time to call it a day.

Shalom.

301 posted on 01/21/2005 8:59:35 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: iconoclast
It was when established (are you a recent government school product?).

Not at all. I am an ancient private school product who majored in history.

And you? What is your background?

All I know about you is that you don't earn a living reading other peoples' minds.

302 posted on 01/21/2005 8:59:49 AM PST by syriacus (Title as Queen of the BOXER SNORTS goes to Sen. Babs for her performance on 1/19/2005)
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To: TheDon
Perhaps he could give us some tax cuts or something.

He has stated that making the tax cuts permanent is a priority. Can he not do both?

Shalom.

303 posted on 01/21/2005 9:01:18 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: buzznut
You bet we're gonna bring Democracy (and peanut butter banana samwiches) to the Arab lands!


304 posted on 01/21/2005 9:01:21 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past; little jeremiah
"Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self."

I thought it was worth posting again. I love that line. It's a very important point.

Let's keep it going, then. And let's add the homosexual agenda ping list to the discussion. LJ?

Shalom.

305 posted on 01/21/2005 9:02:44 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Earthdweller
I still get the same impression..you think they are subhuman.

Mercy no!

Just your average head chopping, limb tearing, woman stoning, hail-fellow-well-met!

306 posted on 01/21/2005 9:04:28 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: iconoclast
Perhaps you'll like my characterization better .. it's like giving a Swiss watch to a Ubangi.

No, because as far as I know there is no innate human charasteric to desire Swiss cheese.

I see your point - I just don't agree.

However, I would agree that you can't give freedom to a people and leave in place educational and cultural institutions which glorify servitude.

Shalom.

307 posted on 01/21/2005 9:04:43 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Mikmur
Mikmur wrote: I cannot believe that a non-liberal would bash this speech. Perhaps she is just not comfortable with God herself. She surely need not be embarrassed for the President, he can handle himself. As for the ending; isn't it accepted that America was founded under God to spread freedom and liberty, both religious and economic? Ms Noonan did us a disservice her by giving fuel to the anti-American, anti-religious zealots in our country.

Noonan sang a different tune on FOX News immediately after the speech, when she had nothing but good words to say about it.

Personally, I have never understood those who think the sun rises and sets on Peggy Noonan.

She really annoys me with that soft, gooey (and supercilious) attitude of hers.

308 posted on 01/21/2005 9:07:12 AM PST by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Mikmur
It is not our job to force anything on anyone, but it is our responsibility to share what we have both in our personal lives (which is why Americans are the most generous people ever) and in our political ones.

Hey, foreigners have been streaming into our schools for years.

Send over civics books by the boatload, if you want, but if they'll only read them at the the point of a gun, that's where I draw the line.

309 posted on 01/21/2005 9:10:57 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Mikmur

Alternatives to killing our enemies are thin on the ground. They...Islamofascists...would slaughter us in a NY minute, they've made that quite clear. It's the only reason they get up in the morning. What to do? Sit around and wait for another 9/11? Clearly this is unthinkable, so we act preemptively, either with force, aid, and example. Iraq and Afghanistan are a mix of all three. Iran's been warned. Syria, too. The rest of the usual suspects...Lybia, Pakistan, etc., are at least singing along with the choir.

Poverty, envy, anger, hopelessness, and illiteracy--(brainwashing, too), are behind Islamofascism. They have no voice in their future. What future? They'd rather be dead in the service of Islam since they believe they'll end up in paradise. But if reality meant democracy, or whatever form their country could achieve, they'd have an interest in living in the real world peacefully. Maybe this is pie in the sky, unachievable, but the alternative: killing them all, generations of young Arab males, etc., for the foreseeable future, isn't rational. It was a troubling speech, but the choice is rather stark. Somebody had to come out with it sooner or later. GW did yesterday. And did it make me happy? No. I'd rather pull up the drawbridge, mine the borders, and let the rest of the world stew in its own juice. But they won't leave us alone, and that's the sorry truth.


310 posted on 01/21/2005 9:13:48 AM PST by hershey
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To: Earthdweller
The only other choice is to let your so-called "subhuman" culture grow and get the "imperial urge"..which seems to already be taking place.

Wow! That "imperial urge" invasion is gonna require one hell of a lot of highjacked planes. Not to mention the logistics problems of support by their dinghy navies.

311 posted on 01/21/2005 9:16:14 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: buzznut

"busybody Wilsonian sentiments"
I agree. We don't have the manpower or the money to remake the world. We can't create Utopia or anything like it. Bush should read the Bible--"wars and rumors of wars..." This speech was over the top, totally unrealistic. While we're in dreamland, China is arming to the teeth, Russia is reverting to its autocratic ways, and we're dumping billions down a rathole. More realism, Mr. Bush, please.


312 posted on 01/21/2005 9:16:17 AM PST by WestSylvanian
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To: iconoclast

"Just your average head chopping, limb tearing, woman stoning, hail-fellow-well-met!"
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Hey..did you know the the New York "patriots" used to throw immigrants on to fence posts and let them hang there like a sunday barbeque? Needless to say..we had the B@lls to get rid of these guys then. If some Islamazoid shows up at my door I might show him what head chopping is all about. We were not short of the so-called "subhuman" in our earlier days you know.


313 posted on 01/21/2005 9:17:05 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: ArGee

No problem just wanted to make sure the 'record' was straight for any possible conflicts my response might create.


314 posted on 01/21/2005 9:17:27 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: iconoclast
That is why we conservatives are so concerned about the current immigration policy/philosophy. They seem to us to be a road map to Balkanization.

Congratulations!! You've just provided the answer to the diversity problem in Iraq!! Put good policies into place.

You know, as a student of American history, that heterogeneity does not, of itself, lead to Balkanization. You yourself said policy can make a difference.

The outcome, (whether Balkanization takes place or not) depends on how the heterogeneity is handled.

BTW, I've got to think a little more about the competing notions that

Maybe you can help...Are the Iraqis too alike in their thinking, or too different in their thinking?
315 posted on 01/21/2005 9:17:55 AM PST by syriacus (Title as Queen of the BOXER SNORTS goes to Sen. Babs for her performance on 1/19/2005)
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To: syriacus
How many new ideas have you gotten from him?

I get all my new ideas from Sean Hannity and Fred Barnes. (/sarcasm)

316 posted on 01/21/2005 9:20:47 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Mikmur
"Reagan called Soviet communism bankrupt and said it would end in our time. They laughed, but he was right."

Peggy Noonan, June 5, 2004.

Reagan was a bit over the top, was he not?

317 posted on 01/21/2005 9:22:51 AM PST by grassboots.org (Too much Koran, but not too much God...)
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To: iconoclast
How many new ideas have you gotten from him? I get all my new ideas from Sean Hannity and Fred Barnes. (/sarcasm)

Not very interested in real discussions, are you?

318 posted on 01/21/2005 9:22:54 AM PST by syriacus (Title as Queen of the BOXER SNORTS goes to Sen. Babs for her performance on 1/19/2005)
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To: iconoclast

"Wow! That "imperial urge" invasion is gonna require one hell of a lot of highjacked planes. Not to mention the logistics problems of support by their dinghy navies."
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They don't need no planes to get into Europe..they just walk right in. In droves.


319 posted on 01/21/2005 9:23:20 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Earthdweller
I suggest you rent the movie "Gangs of New York" if you think our republic was not molded from the fire of violence, stupidity and mob rule in the beginning. Remember the Wild West?

And I suggest you read more books and watch fewer movies.

320 posted on 01/21/2005 9:23:20 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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