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Peggy Noonan: Way Too Much God (Freepers let's tell her our thoughts)
WSJ ^ | 1/21/05 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 01/21/2005 4:19:45 AM PST by Mikmur

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To: Mikmur
Maybe living in the San Francisco area is having an effect on her?
181 posted on 01/21/2005 7:14:04 AM PST by Barney59 ("This reelection is as secure as a double-knot tied in wet rawhide.")
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To: iconoclast
Only conservatives find his tirade chilling.

One fears that he is trying to make up for the fact that the most fightening man in America is no longer running Justice.

182 posted on 01/21/2005 7:14:09 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: xsmommy
she said she had to "think about it" awhile

Darned good advice for all!

183 posted on 01/21/2005 7:14:34 AM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: AndyJackson

fightening = frightening


184 posted on 01/21/2005 7:14:45 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: iconoclast

however, thinking normally doesn't produce a result 180 degrees diff than the original impression. this doesn't make sense to me.


185 posted on 01/21/2005 7:15:52 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Timeout

I think this speech reveals a speech writer who has studied well previous presidential speeches. There is nothing new in this speech. It is a restatement of the ideals we have always stood for.


186 posted on 01/21/2005 7:15:52 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Mikmur
I think she should reread Lincoln's Second Inaugural Speech. As I recall God or an equivalent term was used repeatedly and Scripture was referenced on several occasions.

Most people can identify up to 2500 people by name but only interact on a regular basis with 25 at most. The problem with being in NYC-DC axis all the time is that your companions eventually sway your reasoning and judgment. Further, always be suspicious of a believer criticizing someone else's faith or expression of it. Unless the testator has been barbaric in his or her expression good manners say "leave it alone."

187 posted on 01/21/2005 7:17:51 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: AndyJackson

No, I haven't called you a swine. I used a well known colloquialism to make a point. Shall I send pictures? If you think it was empty pablum, you clearly don't get it, won't get it, can't get it, and probably have little stomach for ideals.


188 posted on 01/21/2005 7:19:00 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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To: AndyJackson
Peggy said: No one will remember what the president said about domestic policy, which was the subject of the last third of the text. This may prove to have been a miscalculation.

She is right on the mark here. For those of us who are constitutional conservatives, this was an enormous miscalculation in my view.

You are intellectually lame. What on earth does an emphasis on domestic policy have to do with being a "constitutional conservative?" The President will outline "domestic policy" in the State of the Union address. What about this simple fact don't you understand???

189 posted on 01/21/2005 7:19:09 AM PST by paulat
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To: Mikmur

I agree with ya, Mik. Plus, W covered the Mars angle some time ago. :P


190 posted on 01/21/2005 7:19:54 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: skeeter
I realized Peggy was 'round the bend when she dedicated almost half of her Reagan eulogy piece to a petty twenty year old squabble she had had with another WH speechwriter.

She loves to go off on tangents. She should drop opinion and speech writing and go right into novels. She is a novelist. A storyteller. Her style might work there.

191 posted on 01/21/2005 7:20:05 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Mikmur
One wonders if they shouldn't ease up, calm down, breathe deep, get more securely grounded. The most moving speeches summon us to the cause of what is actually possible. Perfection in the life of man on earth is not.

Peggy is not the first former speechwriter to misread this speech. Peter Robinson was taking his lumps from his good friend Hugh Hewitt yesterday for making the same mistake. President Bush was announcing a change in the foreign policy of the US, to the country, but most importantly, to the world. In a long overdue recovery from the Cold War, the US would change it's pragmatic foreign policy which allowed us to ally with dictators and tyrants, to ally with democratic movements and freedom within other nations.

It is ridiculous to think the President was talking about military action to force every nation to conform to our standards of freedom and democracy. He was quite clear that was not the case. I'm sure Natan Sharansky was quite happy with the President's speech. If you need help understanding, read Natan's book, "The Case for Democracy".

192 posted on 01/21/2005 7:20:21 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: AmishDude
He wrote this to be read by historians or to be played on A&E, not for us, sitting here, with our own expectations for the speech.

Very nice summary and very accurate, too, I think.

This was not a speech that was delivered in order to instantly rally a team for a game that's about to start in 3 minutes.

It was a speech that needs to have much more longevity. It needs to last over the long haul.

193 posted on 01/21/2005 7:20:50 AM PST by syriacus (Title as Queen of the BOXER SNORTS goes to Sen. Babs for her performance on 1/19/2005)
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To: ArGee

Perhaps he could give us some tax cuts or something.


194 posted on 01/21/2005 7:22:03 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: AndyJackson

Odd, I saw it as "freedom" agenda. Now GWB sees freedom as the "gift of God". I don't think anyone has to share that belief to believe in the power of freedom. And I don't see that belief as particularly threatening. But that is just me.


195 posted on 01/21/2005 7:22:39 AM PST by cajungirl (my peeps are freeps)
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To: skeeter
Thanks. I realized Peggy was 'round the bend when she dedicated almost half of her Reagan eulogy piece to a petty twenty year old squabble she had had with another WH speechwriter.

You are SO RIGHT. Thanks for reminding me. Also, she was the one writing whiny columns about buying gas masks and taping off a "safe room" after 9-11.

196 posted on 01/21/2005 7:22:45 AM PST by paulat
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To: paulat
The President will outline "domestic policy" in the State of the Union address.

Agreed.

197 posted on 01/21/2005 7:24:27 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: ovrtaxt

"I don't know what Peggy's problem is."

My guess is she has never experienced an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.


198 posted on 01/21/2005 7:25:49 AM PST by rwa265
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To: TheDon

He wasn't calling for perfection either. She must have misread that into his speech too.


199 posted on 01/21/2005 7:26:04 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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