Cheney Says Israel Might 'Act First' on Iran

NYTimes ^ | January 21, 2005 | DAVID E. SANGER

[SunkenCiv]

Since then the Saudis have purchased AWACS (the overflights took place across Saudi territory); the US has detection and air combat capability in the region (so, either the Israelis are seen but nothing is done, or are seen and intercepted, hopefully not shot down); Iran has widely distributed the targets, and presumably has at the very least triple-A all over the place.

I think Cheney's words are part of the ongoing "hard cop" from the US. This is intended to push Iran along into dealing away its capability in its alleged negotiations with Europe.

But that won't work, because the negotiations are just a stalling tactic. The Moslem states learned yet another lesson in the 1973 war -- if Israel could be defeated on the ground, then the nuclear retaliation would take care of the Arabs for good. I won't say it. ;')

The lesson is, they can't fight another war against Israel unless they have nuclear strike capability, which means, nuclear warheads and a capable delivery system (or more than one). Despite their vociferous and generally violent differences, the Moslem states (other than Turkey) near Israel have in the past collaborated in a genocide campaign, and they have done so continually, and are doing so now.

Egypt used the first WMDs in the area, against the Saudis, during the Yemem civil war, and yet they fought on the same side in 1967, 1973, and during the terrorist campaigns before, during, and since then.

If Syria's next on the list for liberation and democracy, Israel's assistance will probably be needed and eagerly provided. That might be the best option, since that won't take too long, will smash Iranian influence in Lebanon, remove water shortage difficulties caused by the Syrians, and postpone or eliminate any chance of immediate war against Israel.

Removing Iran would probably result in the flight of Iranian fanatics to Syria and Lebanon, which creates a "fish in a barrel" situation. Nation-building in Iran is something the Iranians are itching to do, and getting rid of the Iranian Moslem horde will be simpler, because they fight to the death.

They have no idea how quick their fight will be over.

Iran is bound to have loads of chemical weapons, and will probably launch missiles against Israel, just as Iraq did in the Gulf War. After they're overcome, all of the WMDs should be piled up in one stack, right on top of Iran's "holiest" city, and blown up. The event should be televised. The Iranian trials in which the mullahs are condemned, and their executions certainly will be televised in Iran.

Y'know, provided the mullahs make it to trial, and aren't just torn limb from limb by the Iranian people.

[F14 Pilot]

Mullahs wont fight, they dont have gut to fight the US. In return they kill their own people.

Believe me... Try to shoot a bullet toward Iran and they will start hammering their own people first.

[windchime]

"I love to read about Israeli strikes... they never miss and they don't play around. Their Missiles for terrorist cars policy is awesome."

Me, too! Following is the address of a site through which you can send a supportive treat to the IDF:

http://www.pizzaidf.org/

BTW: I love your tagline.

[Calvin Locke]

Misdirection?

Feint to the West, nailed them from the South?

Hold them by the nose, and ...

[SunkenCiv]

[singing] "kaboom, kaboom, ya-da-da-da-da-da-ya-da-da-da-da-da..."

[epow]

Netanyahu (sp?) said tonight that Iran will soon have the ability to hit western Europe with nuclear missiles, and not long after will be able to hit the big U.S. cities along the east coast. I imagine that Israeli intelligence knows as much about Iran's progress toward building nuclear bombs and ICBMs as the Iranians themselves do.

North Korea and China have been selling the mullahs rocket technology to build ICBMs, and the rogue Pakistani nuclear physicist gave or sold them the know how they needed to finish building nuclear weapons. I believe that the mad mullah whackos in Tehran will fire off a nuke at somebody, probably Israel, as soon as they get a workable missile/bomb package ready to go.

The Iranian nuke plants are buried deep underground and Iran now has the latest model Russian AA missiles guarding it's airspace, so the Israelis may not be able to take them out with planes and conventional bombs as they did Saddam's nuke plant. I wouldn't put it past the Israelis to take out the Iranian facilities with their own nukes if they think it's necessary to Israel's survival. I just hope Bush and company won't try to stand in their way if and when it all comes down to either that or Israel's annihilation.

[M. Espinola]

Israel must protect her public from the very real threat of Iran's unstable terrorist promoting dictatorship, which is now made far worse with Russian supplied technology for nuclear missiles.