Posted on 01/20/2005 3:22:49 PM PST by fishtank
Let's go!
This needs to be on the table.
Would at least one Christian minister who has the President's ear ---- give him an earful????
The more one knows of it, the more one hates of it. And I don't care anything about any other religions. I don't belong to any anyway. But I do know of one that's incredibly evil and a cancer on the planet..
As I say, you are free to believe so, but they are free to practice that evil, cancerous religon in this country. I can separate the religion from individuals...can you? Or is anyone who practices Islam evil by default and worthy of killing?
I don't buy that for one second, and I think it's bigoted. I don't have to like Islam, but I do have to tolerate it. What I do NOT have to tolerate is extremists who use it as a basis for their murderous deeds. Therein lies the difference.
Hopefully you won't mind too much when you, or your descendants, are forced to submit or killed.
Did you misread my post? I have a BIG problem with Islamic extremists who do exactly what you are talking about. I have absolutely no problem with getting rid of them. I have a BIG problem with thinking ALL Muslims want to do that, I don't believe it. I refuse to kill every Muslim for the actions of some, and refuse to condone such a course of action.
Thanks for making my point for me, though.
If you really think every single one isn't praying 5 times a day for a global islamic caliphate and dhimmitude or death for infidels, you're out of your mind.
Now what is your argument?
You want to allow Muslims to takeover the US? All immgration from Muslim countries must be stopped until we have a very careful screening process and make sure no REAL Muslims are here. In WW1 & 2 the German, Italian and Japanese communities face well deserved scrutiny from our government and that is how we won the war. The current Muslim community is not helping at all in the War except helping AL-Qaeda succeed in the next attack.
Islam wont tolerate you and will destroy you unless you kick it away.
What I do NOT have to tolerate is extremists who use it as a basis for their murderous deeds.
Do you know about the Prophet Mohammed? The one who waged Holy Jihad War against all who would not convert. Well you see he is their Jesus and they follow what he teachs so Therein lies the problem.
Who was Islam hijacked FROM?
See the point it was hijacked from no one that is how it is meant to be. You cannot be a true Muslim and not want to kill all non-muslims. Yes not all Muslims are terrorist but they are terrorist sympathizers and those Muslims who arent are not true Muslims.
"If you really think every single one isn't praying 5 times a day for a global islamic caliphate and dhimmitude or death for infidels, you're out of your mind."
Either that or she's deferring to experts. Read the following from former CIA Director James Woolsey. He says there are basically three groups of Moslems. Two of them are different forms of evil, but the third group shows potential for optimism.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=16219
So, you are competent to judge who is and is not a "true Muslim", and what a "true Muslim" is supposed to believe? That's laughable. Oh, and they are all terrorist sympathizers, as well. ROFL! How can you say what over a billion people believe? There are tons of Christians in the world, and I don't agree with all of their practices either! I can't say what other Christians believe, only what I believe, and I can't see how you can claim to be an authority on a religion I presume is not yours. For the record, I never said it was hijacked by extremists,(at least not on this thread, anyway)just that they get all the ink by default because other Muslims either aren't brave enough to stand up to the whackos, or YES, are sympthetic. I would wager that there are a great many more people who are simply afraid, rather than sympathetic to terrorists. After all, how many of these creeps have killed their own? LOTS!
If you can make such generalizations with a straight face (and mean it), then you are out of yours.
Oh, for goodness' sake. Then why aren't we all dead already? There are so many of them, and lots of them have lots of money...they could get together and do the deed if they really wanted to.
Give me a break.
Exactly. I do defer to folks who learn about this stuff for a living. Not to mention, I have learned about the differences myself. I know better, and it's a shame more folks don't want to learn more about their supposed enemy. There is more to learning about it than simply reading the Koran...there is more to Islamic terrorists than just their religion. That's simply the way they try to get recruits.
History, culture, geography, and politics (ah, what the heck, let's throw in group psychology as well) have more to do with it than anything else, imo.
The vast majority of Muslims are the competent judge as to what a "true muslim" is suppose to believe. Have you been to any Muslim countries? Do you know anything about these countries and their customs?
The vast majority of Muslims follow the Koran and the life of Mohammed which lays out exactly what their doing now.
other Muslims either aren't brave enough to stand up to the whackos, or YES, are sympthetic. I would wager that there are a great many more people who are simply afraid, rather than sympathetic to terrorists. After all, how many of these creeps have killed their own? LOTS!
Im sure in WW2 Germans were afraid of Hitler and his Nazis but followed along like the Sheeple they were. Did that mean we went easy on the German civilians. We killed Millions of German Civilians rightfully so.
As for Muslims there RELIGION is their Facism. They fear the wrath of Allah and the false prophet Mohammed.
There are tons of Christians in the world, and I don't agree with all of their practices either!
Our nation was founded on Judeo-Christian prinicples if we allow Islam to penetrate this country you can expect our country to turn upside down and inside out. Like any liberal you compare Christianity to Islam. Christianity allows for tolerance and has a THEOLOGY that allows for Reason. In Islam their is no reason and ask any Muslim that. I talked to Muslims and they say the Koran is to be followed in true form or it is not Islam. In Muslim countries that is what they believe go see it for yourself oh and bring your burka or hijab cuz independent Women of the Navy are not welcomed. You see what is happening in France. Well that is what will happen in America soon thanks to liberal and Islam misinterpeters such as yourself.
That's laughable.
Only thing laughable is how naive you are!
Name one
Very good post - Thanks!
Will Ferrell on Saturday Night Live coined the term, in his impression of GWB- still the best ever...
Thank you thank you.
I have a challnge for any one disagreeing there with you or me:
Find me one quote or reference from the Koran in, let's say, the "Federalist Papers". It is replete with references from the OT and the NT.
What many here don't realize is this: the US was not set up as a theocracy, however, in fact, religious freedom is taught in the Bible. It is NOT taught in the Koran.
Because it was like including "Mein Kampf".
Way to be an American. If you are not a Christian or a Jew you don't belong here?
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