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Skipper of submarine San Francisco relieved of command
Navy Times | 1/20/5 | William H. McMichael

Posted on 01/20/2005 7:33:30 AM PST by SmithL

Commander Mooney has been reassigned.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: cmdrmooney; submarine; usn; usssanfrancisco
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Can't excerpt from Navy Times. Read the story here:

http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-609556.php

1 posted on 01/20/2005 7:33:30 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

That's probably SOP...


2 posted on 01/20/2005 7:34:09 AM PST by ErnBatavia (ErnBatavia, Boxer, Pelosi, Thomas...the ultimate nightmare Menage a Quatro)
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To: Doohickey

PING


3 posted on 01/20/2005 7:34:34 AM PST by Severa (I can't take this stress anymore...quick, get me a marker to sniff....)
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To: Doohickey

One active ping.

We sure saw this coming


4 posted on 01/20/2005 7:35:08 AM PST by SmithL (ex-Boomer Rider)
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To: SmithL

Wasn't the undersea obstruction uncharted?


5 posted on 01/20/2005 7:35:50 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Doohickey

Uncharted Bump.


6 posted on 01/20/2005 7:36:17 AM PST by dread78645 (Truth is always the right answer)
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To: SmithL

If the mount was not on any of the charts, how can he be held responsible?........


7 posted on 01/20/2005 7:36:40 AM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: mylife

ping


8 posted on 01/20/2005 7:37:29 AM PST by ozaukeemom (Nuke the ACLU and their snivel rights!)
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To: Red Badger

It sounds like he should get a medal, not a new job.


9 posted on 01/20/2005 7:37:55 AM PST by thag (Up armor this......)
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To: ErnBatavia; SJSAMPLE

Yes, it was uncharted, and yes, that's SOP.


10 posted on 01/20/2005 7:37:59 AM PST by SmithL (ex-Boomer Rider)
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To: ErnBatavia

I would be suprised if the USN would permit a skipper
under investigation to command a ship or boat
while it is being investigated.


11 posted on 01/20/2005 7:38:12 AM PST by dwilli
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To: Red Badger

Captains are always ultimately responsible, even for those things beyond their control. His career is now finished, wrongly or not. Pity.


12 posted on 01/20/2005 7:38:31 AM PST by theDentist (Jerry Springer: PBS for White Trash)
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To: Red Badger

There is your way, my way and the Navy way.

As a former Navy officer, I knew he would be relieved.

Even if he is not negligent, would you want to be on a crew with a Captain that ran into something?


13 posted on 01/20/2005 7:38:46 AM PST by shubi (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: SmithL
Teddy Kennedy was not relieved of his command when he sunk the USS Submarine Oldsmobile.
14 posted on 01/20/2005 7:39:25 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: SmithL

I served 5 years on a nuc sub from 1975 to 1980. It is SOP to change command after any "accident".

I was on the pier when a sub next to us was tired of waiting for the tugs to help it pull out so the skipper decided to get underway by himself and bump the sub next to him.

SUBGRUP 5 was on the tender above. He walked down and relieved the skipper right on the spot, the tugs came, tied the boat up and they had a change of command that day.


15 posted on 01/20/2005 7:39:25 AM PST by edcoil
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To: SmithL

Any facts / rumor how he hit a mountain - uncharted or not?
We play crazy Ivan in lots closer spaces so I am scratching my sub loving head on this one. (no. my 18 year old daughter was not at the helm)


16 posted on 01/20/2005 7:40:41 AM PST by llevrok (Straight Guy with a Marteen-eye)
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To: Red Badger

The captain is always responsible. Period. Not always fair, but that is always the way it is.


17 posted on 01/20/2005 7:40:58 AM PST by IGOTMINE (Say a prayer for the common foot soldier...)
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To: edcoil
I served 5 years on a nuc sub from 1975 to 1980. It is SOP to change command after any "accident".

If that were true, my CO would have been relieved at least three times ...

18 posted on 01/20/2005 7:41:49 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: shubi

In this case, yes. If in fact the mount was not charted, then the NAVY was negligent in not providing up to date maps. How many other un-charted mounts are there? Or NEW ones ala the tsumani earthquakes?...


19 posted on 01/20/2005 7:42:09 AM PST by Red Badger (And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you FReep!........)
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To: SmithL; Doohickey
Reassigned. The Captain's command is in dry dock and may be decommissioned. I suspect the inquiry will take at least 6 mos.

USS SF ping.

20 posted on 01/20/2005 7:42:10 AM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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