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Boston terror threat probed
Boston Herald ^ | January 19, 2005 | Tom Farmer and Michele McPhee

Posted on 01/19/2005 1:44:33 PM PST by RWR8189

Federal and state authorities are investigating a nuclear terrorist threat against Boston after a man calling from Mexico told California police that he smuggled two Iraqis and four Chinese over the border, the Boston Herald has learned.

``They got a call from across the border in Mexico to the California Highway Patrol and he said he brought two Iraqis and four Chineses (individuals)across the border and according to him, they stated soon to follow behind them would be some sort of material,'' said a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

``He refers to some sort of nuclear material that will follow them through New York up into Boston.''

According to the source, the caller has not identified himself and did not show up for a meeting with federal investigators in California but he did leave pictures of four Chinese men and some names at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border.

``They were dropped by the source at a location. He literally threw them over a fence from Mexico to the U.S. side,'' said the source. ``There are pictures of the four Chinese and some names but just how accurate they are remains a question''

Massachusetts law enforcement officials were notified of the threat at 5:30 a.m. today through the FBI and Boston Police Joint Terrorist Task Force.

The threat was serious enough that Mayor Menino ordered the Fire Commissioner and the state's Homeland Security Chief into his office at City Hall, where they met with officials from the CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, a high-ranking city official told the Herald.

``They are desperately trying to piece it together,'' said the offial, who added that if the threat is real it is ``very scary.''

A company that trains explosive-sniffing dogs said it was alerted that the canines would be searching for a ``dirty bomb,'' a New York City law enforcement official said yesterday.

The Massachusetts investigator said much of the man's information sounds far-fetched and investigators have some doubts about the caller's validity because he has not identified himself.

``A lot of it doesn't make sense and some of it does,'' said the source. ``It's totally uncorroborated. This all began several days ago as a series of phone calls and they don't know who the caller is. There are some parts of it that just don't make sense and other little pieces of it that fall into place. The information is these people that came into the country are going to New eYork into Boston and the (nuclear) material will follow them.''

The source said there is speculation the caller may have been ripped off by illegal immigrants he helped over the border and is now trying to exact revenge.

``It's very weird. Even if (the Iraqis and Chinese) were going to do something why would they be blabbing to the yahoo smuggling them across the border? You have to wonder if they screwd him on a deal but you have to treat it seriously and the issue is how do you put it out to the public and not get everybody (in a panic)?''

The source said the information will soon ``come out over police channels and BOLOs (be on the lookout).''

The source added the FBI office in San Diego is leading the investigation. ``The FBI in San Diego is the originating office so they are driving the investigation. The FBI in Boston is in a tough position because they are waiting for information''

The caller has not given investigators any means to contact him.

``They tried to set up a meet with him but he didn't show up.''


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; boston; bostonterriers; chinesenationals; fbi; immigrantlist; jttf; theskyisfalling; tinfoilhatbrigade
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To: presidio9

That is your opinion that there would be no net effect with respect to the terrorist threat. It is not however the opinion of those who have taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States as it is their duty to defend our borders and stem the tide of criminal aliens entering our nation. When one follows the law of the land there are few opinions that matter and yours is not one of them.


301 posted on 01/26/2005 10:46:28 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority
It is not however the opinion of those who have taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States as it is their duty to defend our borders and stem the tide of criminal aliens entering our nation.

Let me ask you something? Do you think the border guards stand to gain if we make their job perceptually more important be indicating that they are protecting us from terrorism instead of rounding up shoeless peasants? The rest of what you said has nothing to do with terrorism and is irrelevant to this conversation. What is it about you border fanatics that you are unable to stay on topic. Oh that's right: No concrete evidence supporting your opinion.

302 posted on 01/26/2005 10:56:44 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
The may be shoeless but they are criminals as soon as they enter without proper documentation and an invitation from our government, that is, the governed, ie., we the people. If shoeless Mexicans can enter then terrorists can and will enter and I believe, have entered.

I am not a border fanatic, I am a fan of the US Constitution, and this nation, and without borders we have no nation. Call me a Constitutional fanatic if you need to call me something, or would you rather call me a racist?

The only thing I need to reference when advocating the rule of law is the US Constitution. Any questions?
303 posted on 01/26/2005 11:25:01 AM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority
Mexican People Smuggler Admits Boston Terror Hoax (Hoaxer Released)

For the last time, terrorists do not NEED to sneak across the border. Mexicans do it because they can't afford any other method.

304 posted on 01/26/2005 12:35:19 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
But you will admit it is easy to criminally enter by crossing the border, as easy for terrorists as it is for Mexicans, will you. And, I assume you will admit that Mexicans "sneaking" across the border are breaking the law as soon as they enter, and lawbreakers by definition are criminals. It matters not whether they can afford something or not, there is no utility argument that can excuse criminal behavior because of someones ability to afford something when a law is broken, or when many laws are broken.

You are correct, terrorists do not need to sneak across the border, it is just easier, cheaper, and less difficult to smuggle stuff in to do us harm by crossing the Mexican/USA border.

Am I wrong in that the most recent explanation for the bogus tip in this case is that a Mexican national who makes a living smuggling criminals across the border was stiffed and essentially turned the Chinese folks in to the US feds? This is exactly why we must and will shut down the borders.
305 posted on 01/26/2005 2:11:45 PM PST by Final Authority
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To: Final Authority
You are correct, terrorists do not need to sneak across the border, it is just easier, cheaper, and less difficult to smuggle stuff in to do us harm by crossing the Mexican/USA border.

As we have seen on this thread, it is pretty much impossible to smuggle nuclear material across the Mexican border (the only weapon terrorists would be unable to obtain in the US). On the other hand shipping the material in a container (2% of which are checked) would be realitively straightforward.

306 posted on 01/26/2005 3:13:59 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: Final Authority
But you will admit it is easy to criminally enter by crossing the border, as easy for terrorists as it is for Mexicans, will you. And, I assume you will admit that Mexicans "sneaking" across the border are breaking the law as soon as they enter, and lawbreakers by definition are criminals. It matters not whether they can afford something or not, there is no utility argument that can excuse criminal behavior because of someones ability to afford something when a law is broken, or when many laws are broken.

This has nothing to do with terrorism. Stop fear-mongering to advance your political cause.

307 posted on 01/26/2005 3:14:56 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9

I did not say nuclear material. Do not attribute words or ideas to me that I did not convey.

Open borders are precisely a national security or homeland security issue. Open borders are an invitation for those who wish us harm to enter undetected. The borders will be closed or we will have no nation. If you do not understand the seriousness of this then you are not worth any more of my time.


308 posted on 01/26/2005 4:36:13 PM PST by Final Authority
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