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Boston terror threat probed
Boston Herald ^ | January 19, 2005 | Tom Farmer and Michele McPhee

Posted on 01/19/2005 1:44:33 PM PST by RWR8189

Federal and state authorities are investigating a nuclear terrorist threat against Boston after a man calling from Mexico told California police that he smuggled two Iraqis and four Chinese over the border, the Boston Herald has learned.

``They got a call from across the border in Mexico to the California Highway Patrol and he said he brought two Iraqis and four Chineses (individuals)across the border and according to him, they stated soon to follow behind them would be some sort of material,'' said a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

``He refers to some sort of nuclear material that will follow them through New York up into Boston.''

According to the source, the caller has not identified himself and did not show up for a meeting with federal investigators in California but he did leave pictures of four Chinese men and some names at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border.

``They were dropped by the source at a location. He literally threw them over a fence from Mexico to the U.S. side,'' said the source. ``There are pictures of the four Chinese and some names but just how accurate they are remains a question''

Massachusetts law enforcement officials were notified of the threat at 5:30 a.m. today through the FBI and Boston Police Joint Terrorist Task Force.

The threat was serious enough that Mayor Menino ordered the Fire Commissioner and the state's Homeland Security Chief into his office at City Hall, where they met with officials from the CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, a high-ranking city official told the Herald.

``They are desperately trying to piece it together,'' said the offial, who added that if the threat is real it is ``very scary.''

A company that trains explosive-sniffing dogs said it was alerted that the canines would be searching for a ``dirty bomb,'' a New York City law enforcement official said yesterday.

The Massachusetts investigator said much of the man's information sounds far-fetched and investigators have some doubts about the caller's validity because he has not identified himself.

``A lot of it doesn't make sense and some of it does,'' said the source. ``It's totally uncorroborated. This all began several days ago as a series of phone calls and they don't know who the caller is. There are some parts of it that just don't make sense and other little pieces of it that fall into place. The information is these people that came into the country are going to New eYork into Boston and the (nuclear) material will follow them.''

The source said there is speculation the caller may have been ripped off by illegal immigrants he helped over the border and is now trying to exact revenge.

``It's very weird. Even if (the Iraqis and Chinese) were going to do something why would they be blabbing to the yahoo smuggling them across the border? You have to wonder if they screwd him on a deal but you have to treat it seriously and the issue is how do you put it out to the public and not get everybody (in a panic)?''

The source said the information will soon ``come out over police channels and BOLOs (be on the lookout).''

The source added the FBI office in San Diego is leading the investigation. ``The FBI in San Diego is the originating office so they are driving the investigation. The FBI in Boston is in a tough position because they are waiting for information''

The caller has not given investigators any means to contact him.

``They tried to set up a meet with him but he didn't show up.''


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; boston; bostonterriers; chinesenationals; fbi; immigrantlist; jttf; theskyisfalling; tinfoilhatbrigade
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To: RobRoy

"Why are we being told this?"

Because it is hugh and vey series!


21 posted on 01/19/2005 2:01:03 PM PST by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a bad memory)
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To: RWR8189
This can't be true. Didn't bin Laden say only the red states will be attacked. There isn't a bluer state than Massachusetts.
22 posted on 01/19/2005 2:02:54 PM PST by Ticonderoga34
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Actually - it's not necessarily the Chinese government - there are many Chinese Muslims near the border of Pakistan/Afghanistan. Iirc, other threat reporting has implied that al Qaeda was looking to use non-Arab (looking) Muslims.


23 posted on 01/19/2005 2:03:25 PM PST by jrpascucci (Terrorae delenda est)
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To: RWR8189
`It's very weird. Even if (the Iraqis and Chinese) were going to do something why would they be blabbing to the yahoo smuggling them across the border? You have to wonder if they screwd him on a deal but you have to treat it seriously and the issue is how do you put it out to the public and not get everybody (in a panic)?'

Our southern border is wide open to any thug with a grudge against the USA and we should not panic? Our political leadership is living pre-911 with respect the south border.

24 posted on 01/19/2005 2:03:56 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: RWR8189

I have a favorite phrase I use after "pseudo-insulting" someone: "Don't worry, If I REALLY meant it, I wouldn't have said it."

The same goes here. If there really IS a threat, they wouldn't say squat, unless it was just before saying "everybody get the heck out of boston NOW!"

This smells.


25 posted on 01/19/2005 2:03:59 PM PST by RobRoy (Science is about "how." Christianity is about "why.")
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Oh yeah, I forgot. Thanks for reminding me!


26 posted on 01/19/2005 2:05:26 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Oh yeah, I forgot. Thanks for reminding me!


27 posted on 01/19/2005 2:05:26 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: jrpascucci

or Chinese-looking militants from the Philippines or Indonesia...good point


28 posted on 01/19/2005 2:05:26 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Oh yeah, I forgot. Thanks for reminding me!


29 posted on 01/19/2005 2:05:26 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: blaquebyrd
Plus, the people who constantly suggest we close down the US southern border with Mexico due to fears terrorists might somehow make it across with job seekers, is just a red herring. Those who want to close those borders are just mean spirited racists whose real concern is that they don't like Mexicans. But if we follow their advice, we'd jeopardize our vote in the Hispanic community.

/sarc


30 posted on 01/19/2005 2:05:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Anyone else see irony in prioritizing Iraq [w/no nukes] as N. Korea kept on making nukes [9 now] ?)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

sorry for the multiple posts. My connection is having trouble.


31 posted on 01/19/2005 2:07:09 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: RWR8189

CLOSE THE BORDERS! NOW!


32 posted on 01/19/2005 2:07:41 PM PST by billndin
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To: Shermy
Most everything no matter how ridiculous will be told. Prospecitive CYA, a lesson of 9/11 for bureaucrats.

I think you've nailed it.

Since professional Dim victims such as Kristin Breitweiser and Monica Gabrielle (in cahoots with Chrissy Matthews and the rest of the media mob) were able to make such hay of the vague 'warning' of the August 6 pdb...you can bet the FBI has to go into CYA mode, possible public panic be damned.

33 posted on 01/19/2005 2:08:41 PM PST by shhrubbery!
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To: RobRoy

Bump.


34 posted on 01/19/2005 2:12:04 PM PST by Deguello
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To: blaquebyrd
"Hell, a couple of months from now the Mexcan guy won't even have to throw them over the fence they can moonwalk across the border if they like. "

Is that your idea of an intelligent comment?

35 posted on 01/19/2005 2:14:57 PM PST by bayourod (America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"or Chinese-looking militants from the Philippines..."

Because the Philippines were a colony of Spain prior to U.S. liberation, Spanish is still spoken among many of the Asian natives of that land...useful for trips to Mexico, no doubt.

36 posted on 01/19/2005 2:15:53 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: jrpascucci
there are many Chinese Muslims near the border of Pakistan/Afghanistan. Iirc, other threat reporting has implied that al Qaeda was looking to use non-Arab (looking) Muslims.

That must really be Hell when they have to scream 'ARRAH AWKBAR!' just before they hit the detonator.
37 posted on 01/19/2005 2:19:03 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: RWR8189

I have to laugh at this in a black humor sort of way. Boston, which spent 4 years excoriating Bush and lavishing praise on Kerry and other Liberals must find this a bit ironic.


38 posted on 01/19/2005 2:20:52 PM PST by pabianice
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To: blaquebyrd
RE: "they're only here to do work that Americans won't do"

Good point. But this is serious. Regardless of their intent will they work cheap? Will they work hard and not ask for time off to do their dirty work? If their mission is a suicidal mission will they supply their employers with replacements? These are the economic issues that matter.

No apologies for my sarcasm.

Anyone, including White House types, who believes another "law" can prevent ILLEGAL entry is NUTS!

We got laws! We've had laws for decades! VIRTUALLY NOBODY IN WASHINGTON, P.C. CARES!

Why do we need a shiny new law that can be ignored by business and government anytime they please?! The old law is still in cherry condition!

39 posted on 01/19/2005 2:21:12 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (MSM Fraudcasters are skid marks on journalism's clean shorts.)
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To: RWR8189

Sounds fishy. Kind of feel for the law enforcement guys. Keep it quiet, and you run the risk of it being a real threat. Send out a press release, and you look like a fool.


40 posted on 01/19/2005 2:22:22 PM PST by redgolum
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