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Boston terror threat probed
Boston Herald ^ | January 19, 2005 | Tom Farmer and Michele McPhee

Posted on 01/19/2005 1:44:33 PM PST by RWR8189

Federal and state authorities are investigating a nuclear terrorist threat against Boston after a man calling from Mexico told California police that he smuggled two Iraqis and four Chinese over the border, the Boston Herald has learned.

``They got a call from across the border in Mexico to the California Highway Patrol and he said he brought two Iraqis and four Chineses (individuals)across the border and according to him, they stated soon to follow behind them would be some sort of material,'' said a law enforcement source familiar with the investigation.

``He refers to some sort of nuclear material that will follow them through New York up into Boston.''

According to the source, the caller has not identified himself and did not show up for a meeting with federal investigators in California but he did leave pictures of four Chinese men and some names at a ``drop'' site at the Mexico-California border.

``They were dropped by the source at a location. He literally threw them over a fence from Mexico to the U.S. side,'' said the source. ``There are pictures of the four Chinese and some names but just how accurate they are remains a question''

Massachusetts law enforcement officials were notified of the threat at 5:30 a.m. today through the FBI and Boston Police Joint Terrorist Task Force.

The threat was serious enough that Mayor Menino ordered the Fire Commissioner and the state's Homeland Security Chief into his office at City Hall, where they met with officials from the CIA, FBI, and Homeland Security Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, a high-ranking city official told the Herald.

``They are desperately trying to piece it together,'' said the offial, who added that if the threat is real it is ``very scary.''

A company that trains explosive-sniffing dogs said it was alerted that the canines would be searching for a ``dirty bomb,'' a New York City law enforcement official said yesterday.

The Massachusetts investigator said much of the man's information sounds far-fetched and investigators have some doubts about the caller's validity because he has not identified himself.

``A lot of it doesn't make sense and some of it does,'' said the source. ``It's totally uncorroborated. This all began several days ago as a series of phone calls and they don't know who the caller is. There are some parts of it that just don't make sense and other little pieces of it that fall into place. The information is these people that came into the country are going to New eYork into Boston and the (nuclear) material will follow them.''

The source said there is speculation the caller may have been ripped off by illegal immigrants he helped over the border and is now trying to exact revenge.

``It's very weird. Even if (the Iraqis and Chinese) were going to do something why would they be blabbing to the yahoo smuggling them across the border? You have to wonder if they screwd him on a deal but you have to treat it seriously and the issue is how do you put it out to the public and not get everybody (in a panic)?''

The source said the information will soon ``come out over police channels and BOLOs (be on the lookout).''

The source added the FBI office in San Diego is leading the investigation. ``The FBI in San Diego is the originating office so they are driving the investigation. The FBI in Boston is in a tough position because they are waiting for information''

The caller has not given investigators any means to contact him.

``They tried to set up a meet with him but he didn't show up.''


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; boston; bostonterriers; chinesenationals; fbi; immigrantlist; jttf; theskyisfalling; tinfoilhatbrigade
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To: RS

Oh that's right. I FORGOT about all the CHINESE terrorism going on in this country.


141 posted on 01/19/2005 8:52:29 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: RWR8189

I'm a dog man, but I never cared for them little ankle-biters, myself.


142 posted on 01/19/2005 8:54:52 PM PST by Old Professer (When the fear of dying no longer obtains no act is unimaginable.)
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To: ALIPAC
Presidio9's objectives here are clearly not to debate or discuss this issue. He is engaged to attack and disrupt.

Please. I simply take issue with people who confuse criminals with terrorists to advance their own political agenda. The so-call "Chinese terrorists" are drug dealers, and nothing more. Do I approve of drug dealers? Of course that. Does China currently have an agenda to bring down our government. Don't be silly. They NEED us to continue expanding their productivity.

143 posted on 01/19/2005 8:55:15 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: RWR8189
Terrorists are not too smart.. if true at all..
In Boston and Mass.. in general are some of the terrorists greatest allies.. and will still be allies even if they NUKE the place..
144 posted on 01/19/2005 9:01:29 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: presidio9
...the so-call treat...

feewlin emothinal again??????????

145 posted on 01/19/2005 9:14:18 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick")
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To: exhaustedmomma

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Typos are the last refuge of those without a logical leg to stand on.


146 posted on 01/19/2005 9:17:28 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
I'm going to add to that, because now I AM feeling emotional.

There, There. We know you're scared.

You've had to face two horrible things today. A possible terrorist strike coming from across the Mexican Border. And the fact that the Open Border mentality has already taken a critical hit.

Look! No Mexicans involved. I'm still concerned. Guess it isn't because I hate Mexicans, huh? Maybe the open border is a problem?

It'll be ok, but you should calm down a bit...you don't just sound emotional...you're nearing frantic.

147 posted on 01/19/2005 9:18:20 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: RobRoy; Jeff Head

If (and I must emphasize the "if") there were, in fact, several teams like this, of PLA Spec Ops, staging themselves for some sort of overture of assymetrical warfare (bio, chem, nuclear demolition devices, directed EMP, etc) then, in order to get many eyes looking for them, this is precisely what I would do. Pure speculation of course, caveat emptor, any resemblance with people or events, real or imagined, etc ...


148 posted on 01/19/2005 9:20:04 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: presidio9

BTW, maybe you should look for your Chinese terrorists in "Palastine."

(See? we all do it)


149 posted on 01/19/2005 9:20:06 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: 1_Inch_Group
A possible terrorist strike coming from across the Mexican Border.

Actually, I've seen no credible evidence of such a strike coming cross the border. First, because the "terrorists" were Chinese. Second, because it appears likely that the material did not come with them but in a container ship (like I've been saying), and third because, as with all such incidents, the DHS is taking the matter seriously, even though they are faced with vague details. Coyotes stand to gain a heck of a lot more turning in potential terrorists than by aiding them. Which is obviously what happened here. the bewildered chines immigants were Muslims, therefore terrorists in any uneducated Mexican smuggler's book. We've had major airports in this country shut down for 8 hours because somebody forgot his book bag. Get a GRIP people! Why do you think we haven't had a terrorist attack in this country since 911?

150 posted on 01/19/2005 9:27:21 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9; maui_hawaii

Do they need us more than say, the multitudes living in ASEAN, the Middle East, and elsewhere in Eurasia? How much do they truly need us? At this point, many in the US are using borrowed funds to purchase Chinese wares. Whereas, the typical buyer elsewhere in Asia pays with cash. How much do they truly *need* us and for how much longer?


151 posted on 01/19/2005 9:29:38 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: presidio9
appeals to hysterics with other agendas

Okay, I'll bite. What are these other agendas that appealant hysteric groups have???

**BTW, did the NYPost report Armstrong's "walk" on the moon? IIRC, some folks said that was a farce, too.

152 posted on 01/19/2005 9:30:29 PM PST by exhaustedmomma (Tancredo said Bush's guest-worker proposal is "a pig with lipstick")
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To: presidio9
Actually, I've seen no credible evidence of such a strike coming cross the border.

I'd rather take the opinion of the professionals that have decided to sweep parts of Boston with radiation meters, than yours.

We've had major airports in this country shut down for 8 hours because somebody forgot his book bag

I've seen people's entire seabags destroyed by EOD and water charges because they forgot them laying around base. Thousands of dollars in uniforms and personal effects blown up. I'd do it again...that's why people don't die on my watch.

Get a GRIP people! Why do you think we haven't had a terrorist attack in this country since 911?

Here's one. Last week. In Jersey.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322511/posts

153 posted on 01/19/2005 9:43:03 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: GOP_1900AD

These issuse are completely irrelevent ot terrorism. By calling on them you are distrcating to the debate on how best to protect out country.


154 posted on 01/19/2005 9:46:09 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: 1_Inch_Group

Weak. This was not a terrorist act against our national security and you know it.


155 posted on 01/19/2005 9:47:22 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: exhaustedmomma

The link of illegal immagration to terrorism is a distraction formulated by unions and racists, who have a proud following in the Communist party. If you are interesten closing our borders for reasons of protectionism, so be it, but the idea that there is a terrorist threat that merrits it is dishonest.


156 posted on 01/19/2005 9:50:29 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: GOP_1900AD
At this point, many in the US are using borrowed funds to purchase Chinese wares.

As are the Chinese to purchase ours. What's your point? Should we cease all imposts and exports?

157 posted on 01/19/2005 9:51:46 PM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9
Get a GRIP people! Why do you think we haven't had a terrorist attack in this country since 911?

Here's one. Last week. In Jersey.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322511/posts

Weak. This was not a terrorist act against our national security and you know it.

Never said it was. It was act of terrorism, and you said we hadn't had one.

BTW, you're waaaaay past frantic now.

158 posted on 01/19/2005 9:55:16 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: RWR8189
Federal and state authorities are investigating a nuclear terrorist threat against Boston...

Hey, is that John Kerry I just saw go running past my window?

159 posted on 01/19/2005 10:11:13 PM PST by Prime Choice (I have to keep my expectations low. I can't fake looking impressed.)
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To: presidio9

They are relevant to your false claim that the PRC need us so much that they would not want to either weaken or destroy the US.


160 posted on 01/19/2005 10:26:07 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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