My position is that I've paid into Social Security for more than 25 plus years and I prefer that the government not abscound with my money. They already do plenty of that by subtracting 30% in taxes in addition to Social Security.
If some way were offered to extract my money, my employer's money and interest GUARANTEED, I would not be opposed to some other plan as long as I had control of it and not the government. Provided Congress is watched VERY closely so nothing is tacked on to divert my money or someone else's elsewhere when the plan got made into law.
I simply don't trust politicians with money.
That is my position.
How is it fair to anyone who has paid in for many years to have the government just grab the money and run? No matter how they wrap their little plans up in white linen (and this goes for BOTH parties), that's exactly what I see them trying to do every time they discuss Social Security. So, if you want to reform it, give me my money now so I can do what I want to with it, then reform away. Don't expect me to just write off the cash I've been FORCED to contribute over the years.
And I can't imagine where in the world you got the idea that government has any of your money anymore. They have already spent it.
They absconded with it long ago and spent it. There is no trust fund and there is no obligation for them to give you any back, ever.
I simply don't trust politicians with money. That is my position.
Excellent position. It has always been mine as well.
How is it fair to anyone who has paid in for many years to have the government just grab the money and run?
It's not, but they already have. It's clear that you don't understand the program. It's a Ponzi scheme.
No matter how they wrap their little plans up in white linen (and this goes for BOTH parties), that's exactly what I see them trying to do every time they discuss Social Security.
No, that's what they have already done. There is nothing more to do. They don't have any of your money and they don't owe you any. I can't repeat that often enough.
So, if you want to reform it, give me my money now so I can do what I want to with it, then reform away.
They will never give you the amount of money that has been confiscated from you in one lump sum, ever. So don't bother with the fantasy.
Don't expect me to just write off the cash I've been FORCED to contribute over the years.
I don't. And it wasn't a contribution, it was a tax. They took it from you. (at gunpoint if necessary) And they gave it to someone else to whom it did not rightfully belong.
They have promised to confiscate money from other people and give it to you later, (if you are still alive) but they will not be able to do that for anyone after a few more decades. They promise to do this because they stole your money earlier. The scheme is simplicity itself.
Again, have you read any of the reform plans which have been proposed by various people? Which one if any, asks you to walk away from anything?
Do you propose to keep the system the way it is forever?