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To: ComtedeMaistre
Judaism is BOTH a religion and a nationality. It is not a race. Law of Return is through parentage. My grandfather's documents both under the Austro-Hungarian empire and the then new state of Czechoslovakia listed his nationality as "Jewish". This was NOT anti-Semitism, just a statement of fact.

Since the creation of the State of Israel Jewish nationality has been obscured by Israeli nationality. The Law of Return simply makes it clear than anyone of Jewish nationality is also entitled to Israeli nationality. It does not matter whether one is haredi (black hat, ulta-orthodox), dati leumi (modern orthodox), or chiloni (secular). (FWIW: other groups such as masortim (conservative Jews) are not recognized by the State of Israel and are considered chilonim.)

Considering that the most pro-Israel folks in America are in America's Bible Belt,

Pro-Israel by American Christian standards, yes. Many of the view expressed by American Christian conservatives are the views of the far right ultra-nationalists in Israel. I think such views support policies that do Israel far more harm than good. That is from my Israeli, masorti Jewish, center-right (Likud supporter) perspective.

The Christian right opposes the giving away of even an inch of territory in the peace process.

Precisely my point. That is the road to national suicide and perpetual war. We would have an Arab majority within our borders in no time. We would hold Arab population centers with no hope of ever being free of conflict. What a disaster that would be.

allowing some of those folks to settle in Israel would actually strengthen the state of Israel.

Thankfully we do NOT allow that. We want our children to grow up Jewish not Christian. So long as the evangelical Christianity feels the necessity to prostletyze to Jews they will never be welcomed here except as visitors.

49 posted on 01/19/2005 11:17:15 AM PST by anotherview (Part of the Palestinians' "Zionist enemy" and proud of it.)
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To: anotherview

very well put . also jews from the former soviet union have on their identity card jewish as their nationality. it was only with the onset of reform judaism that people tried to separate nationhood from the jewish religion so as to become germans of the mosaic persuasion.


50 posted on 01/19/2005 11:39:13 AM PST by avitot
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To: anotherview

“That is the road to national suicide and perpetual war. We would have an Arab majority within our borders in no time. We would hold Arab population centers with no hope of ever being free of conflict. What a disaster that would be.”




Recent studies show that the Arab demographic bomb may just be a tidy little piece of Palestinian propaganda which has had a huge impact on Israeli policy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320695/posts


51 posted on 01/19/2005 12:17:04 PM PST by dervish (Europe can go to Islam)
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