Posted on 01/18/2005 10:39:55 PM PST by neverdem
Members of a Harvard faculty committee that has examined the recruiting of professors who are women sent a protest letter yesterday to Lawrence H. Summers, the university's president, saying his recent statements about innate differences between the sexes would only make it harder to attract top candidates.
The committee told Mr. Summers that his remarks did not "serve our institution well."
"Indeed," the letter said, "they serve to reinforce an institutional culture at Harvard that erects numerous barriers to improving the representation of women on the faculty, and to impede our current efforts to recruit top women scholars. They also send at best mixed signals to our high-achieving women students in Harvard College and in the graduate and professional schools."
The letter was one part of an outcry that continued to follow remarks Mr. Summers made Friday suggesting that biological differences between the sexes may be one explanation for why fewer women succeed in mathematic and science careers.
One university dean called the aftermath an "intellectual tsunami," and some Harvard alumnae said they would suspend donations to the university.
Perhaps the most outraged were prominent female professors at Harvard.
"If you were a woman scientist and had two competing offers and knew that the president of Harvard didn't think that women scientists were as good as men, which one would you take?" said Mary C. Waters, chairman of Harvard's sociology department, who with other faculty members has been pressing Mr. Summers to reverse a sharp decline in the hiring of tenured female professors during his administration.
At the center of the storm, Mr. Summers posted a statement late Monday night on his Web page, saying that his comments at the National Bureau of Economic Research, a nonprofit economic research organization in Cambridge had been misconstrued and pledging to continue efforts to "attract and engage outstanding women scientists."
"My aim at the conference was to underscore that the situation is likely the product of a variety of factors and that further research can help us better understand their interplay," he said. "I do not presume to have confident answers, only the conviction that the harder we work to research and understand the situation, the better the prospects for long term success."
Mr. Summers also received support from Hanna H. Gray, a former president of the University of Chicago and a member of the Harvard Corporation, the university's governing body. Dr. Gray said she believed that Mr. Summers's remarks had been misinterpreted.
"I think that Larry Summers is an excellent president of Harvard, firmly committed and deeply respectful of the role of women in universities and one who is anxious to strengthen and enhance that," she said.
At Friday's conference, Mr. Summers discussed possible reasons so few women were on the science and engineering faculties at research universities, and he said he would be provocative.
Among his hypotheses were that faculty positions at elite universities required more time and energy than married women with children were willing to accept, that innate sex differences might leave women less capable of succeeding at the most advanced mathematics and that discrimination may also play a role, participants said. There was no transcript of his remarks.
His remarks caused one professor to walk out and another to openly challenge them.
In their letter to Mr. Summers, the standing committee on women, reproached him for thinking that he could speak as an individual and an economist at a small, private conference without it reflecting on the university.
They said it "was obvious that the president of the university never speaks entirely as an individual, especially when that institution is Harvard and when the issue on the table is so highly charged."
On and off the campus, Mr. Summers's remarks were the subject of heated debate yesterday.
Denice D. Denton, the dean of engineering at the University of Washington who confronted Mr. Summers over his remarks at the conference, said that her phone had not stopped ringing and that she had received scores of e-mail messages on the subject. She said Mr. Summers's remarks might have put new energy into a longstanding effort to improve the status of women in the sciences.
"I think they've provoked an intellectual tsunami," Dr. Denton said.
Howard Georgi, a physics professor and former chairman of the department, sent an e-mail message to Mr. Summers, saying he made a mistake in judgment in accepting the invitation to speak as a provoker. Dr. Georgi also sent a note to his students assuring them that they were appreciated.
Maud Lavin, who graduated from Harvard in the class of 1976, was one of the first women to take a demanding theoretical math sequence, Math 11 and Math 55, and is an associate professor at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. Ms Lavin said in an interview yesterday that she would not donate any more money to Harvard as long as Mr. Summers was president, after firing off an angry e-mail message to him.
"I am offended and furious about your remarks on women in science and mathematics," Ms. Lavin wrote. "Arguments of innate gender difference in math are hogwash and indirectly serve to feed the virulent prejudices still alas very alive and now even more so due to your ill-informed remarks."
Students were also discussing the remarks. Thea Daniels, 21, a Harvard senior majoring in sociology said she and her roommates spent Monday evening talking about them.
"We were just upset," Ms. Daniels said. "It's disconcerting that the man who is supposed to have your best interest in mind and is the leader of your education community thinks less of us."
Summers has brought back ROTC, chased off the professional blacks in the Afro-Am Dept., and is now annoying the feminists. Not too shabby. A stroll through Memorial Hall will remind any conservative of the profound, and sobering, role Harvard has played on the front lines of American history. It's nice to see Larry taking a stand.
One university dean called the aftermath an "intellectual tsunami," and some Harvard alumnae said they would suspend donations to the university.
That cracks me up! Maybe they should look to history? Nahhhhh...... it's much easier to listen to NPR.
"I think they've provoked an intellectual tsunami," Dr. Denton said.
Not exactly. I'm somewhat dissappointed that none of these "intellectual" women are capable of countering with actual fact and reasoned debate.
""If you were a woman scientist and had two competing offers and knew that the president of Harvard didn't think that women scientists were as good as men, which one would you take?" said Mary C. Waters"
You would take Harvard for the 40% pay premium, and the prestige.....just like most guys would;)
"Among his hypotheses were that faculty positions at elite universities required more time and energy than married women with children were willing to accept, that innate sex differences might leave women less capable of succeeding at the most advanced mathematics and that discrimination may also play a role, participants said"
what century is this guy living in?
A Sociologist talking about science is pretty funny. Maybe the guy is onto something!
"Harvard alumnae "
Yeah, 2
:)
The witch hunt is on! Another moment I'm glad I decided to teach little kids and not in academia.
Me thinks the affirmative action beneficiary doth protests too much.
If you flip the scenario around:
1.) If you're a business owner, you're probably going to hire the one that's going to contribute most to your company.
2.) If you work for a big business or the gub'mint, you're going to hire the woman, regardless of actual benefit.
You're definitely onto something, but it usually depends on political persuasion.
It was only a few years ago that I took a Sosh class where the textbook described Karl Marx as a great Sociologist. The teacher didn't even seem to understand that there might be an opposing view.
Based on these facts alone, one can infer that the prevailing culture of Sociologists is
You pick.
Watch for the media to make this a liberal cause, like the NYT and women at Augusta National.
If I were female, and a scientist (What exactly is a "woman scientist", anyway?), I would assume that I had already learned to read, and to comprehend.
I therefore would know that Dr. Summers did not say "women scientists are not as good as men", and furthermore, I would want my science to stand on its own, without reference to what sex I was.
But that's just me.
They're all passing out, or throwing up...
I suddenly feel better about my niece (from a small Tennessee town) going to her second year at Harvard (pre-med). On another note, I believe Larry Summers and Ann Coulter are friends.
I am a female and a scientist (physics) who goes to school down the street from Harvard. The remarks wouldnt factor into my decision because just getting the offers proves him wrong and I (not my gender) earned it irregardless of what Larry Summers says.
I agree and think that women can talk about this rationally without storming out of rooms, becoming physically ill, and furthering stereotypes that women are irrational creatures. However, I was somewhat bothered by the implication that women arent as good at science and math but I agree that there are definitely biological differences that account for fewer female scientists. In my experience, Ive seen nothing to suggest that women arent as good at it just that they do not seem as interested. There's no question that biological differences account for personality differences and preferences that result in disparities in certain fields. For example, every social worker seems to be a woman. And only men except for me seem to be military and weapons analysts.
Here at MIT, most bio majors are women and most physics majors are men. Although bio is infinitely easier than physics, there are no differences in perfermances within majors across genders. There are so many more female biology majors than physical science because there's something nuturing about it that appeals to females. It's life science, a lot of girls want to be doctors, and you can research drugs and cures to help people. Not a lot of the girls seem interested in physics at all and ones that are very different from your average girl.
I'd be curious to know how much Miss Lavin has contributed to Harvard. Since this lady is about 50 and goes by "Ms," its safe to assume she is not married. (read: Lesbian)
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