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To: RFEngineer
Today, you will find no more patriotic an area than the South, and probably more American flags per capita than NJ.

Nice.

That was not the point of the question but can you offer any proof for that claim (since you brought it up)?

The point was why do you fly the American flag? Why do you care so much about a nation that you believe;

a)Should have been destroyed - you would, no doubt, prefer to see an alive CSA with the Stars and Bars over Richmond rather than the Stars & Stripes

b) That half of this same nation can take a flying leap for all you care - including conservative brethern who don't live in dixie

You hate America. Tell me you are happy that the Confederacy lost.

627 posted on 01/25/2005 5:53:46 AM PST by NJ Neocon (Democracy is tyranny of the masses. It is three wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner)
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To: NJ Neocon

"That was not the point of the question but can you offer any proof for that claim (since you brought it up)?"

Since you can't measure patriotism per se, I worded it that way.....that is, not to say southerners are more patriotic than anyone else, but that their patriotism will not be exceeded anywhere else - they are AS patriotic as any other area.

"The point was why do you fly the American flag? Why do you care so much about a nation that you believe;"

I got your point, but I also got the context in which you provided it. You think what is sometimes termed "southern pride" takes away from being an American. That is wrong.


"Should have been destroyed - you would, no doubt, prefer to see an alive CSA with the Stars and Bars over Richmond rather than the Stars & Stripes"

Proof of my previous assertion. I seek not a return of the confederacy, rather I firmly believe that this nation is what it is today because of the Civil War. It's really not that complicated a concept, but apparently you don't understand.

"That half of this same nation can take a flying leap for all you care - including conservative brethern who don't live in dixie"

I rather take it the other way around, friend. You seem to think that dixie, for the crime of admiring a notably decent and good man like General Lee, somehow is less American than you and your turnpike-dwelling brethren, conservative or not.

"You hate America. Tell me you are happy that the Confederacy lost."

Nonesense. You hate General Lee and anyone who admires him. I believe that America would be a better place if Federalism were restrained, and the 10th Amendment were not overturned by force. That not being the case, I firmly believe that eventually, Americans, even some of those from Jersey, will help restore the Federal system to a place more fitting to it's constitutional intent. It won't be pretty, but if it doesn't happen, then we Americans will be little more than across-the-pond Europeans in short order.

Shame on you Jersey. One man's (or states) patriotism takes nothing from another mans. I don't need to list my patriotic resume to prove I'm an American, nor do I care to see yours.


630 posted on 01/25/2005 6:22:52 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: NJ Neocon
The point was why do you fly the American flag? Why do you care so much about a nation that you believe;

a)Should have been destroyed

Walt, the poster you addressed can respond, but destruction of the Union was never a goal. We just thought downsizing was in order.

650 posted on 01/25/2005 3:38:03 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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