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America Remembers Robert E. Lee
NewsMax ^ | 1/19/05 | Calvin E. Johnson Jr.

Posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:53 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
Happy birthday to one of the greatest Americans to ever live.

I second that.

81 posted on 01/18/2005 6:59:49 PM PST by Paul_Denton
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To: JCunningham; GregGinn
So is it possible that slavery was wrong and Lee was right, both, simultaneously?

Good post. Any reading of RE Lee makes it clear that he was a soldier first, politician not at all. Robert E. Lee did not foment secession, but when his state left, he went with it as its servant.

The alternative was for him to renounce his home, as he wrote about it....and from that perspective, he had no other choice...He was on the right side as far as his conscience and honor could grasp.

GregGinn, you should be so lucky that you never have to make such a fateful decision.

82 posted on 01/18/2005 7:00:18 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: GregGinn
Freedom for the slaves was only a matter of time. A growing number of Americans - both yankees and southerners - were becoming convinced that it was wrong.

Machinery and low cost labor was also taking it's fortunate toll on a evil practice.

The truth about the war was that the north wanted cheap raw materials, and they wanted to control all natural resources. Not unlike our treatment of Alaska and it's oil resources.

83 posted on 01/18/2005 7:00:33 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: GregGinn

The Slavery issue as it relates to the Civil War was more of a contrived one... This is evidenced in the fact that the Emancipation Proclamation DID NOT free one slave in the Union... only in those states that seceded. Slavery became an issue when Washington became worried that Europe would provide military support to the south.


84 posted on 01/18/2005 7:00:40 PM PST by CurlyBill (The difference between Madeline Albright and Helen Thomas is a mere 15 years.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Thanks ... maybe I'll have to skip the autograph to get the best book!


85 posted on 01/18/2005 7:00:41 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: wagglebee

Now I dispute that reading of General Grant. He was not qualified to be president, but he was a good man and worthy of admiration.


87 posted on 01/18/2005 7:02:33 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: yarddog

Sorry! All that I remember was that the South attacked Fort Sumtner (Sp?) (I think that fort). Didn't know who provoked the other just knew that the North had not been openly agressive and the South attacked. Still, Lee was a great man(as I've said 2previous times).


88 posted on 01/18/2005 7:03:07 PM PST by onja
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To: onja

I was sure that is what you meant but Fort Sumter is not in the North.


89 posted on 01/18/2005 7:04:38 PM PST by yarddog
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To: GregGinn

Any time :-). Happy Lee-Jackson Day!


90 posted on 01/18/2005 7:05:49 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: wagglebee
Family tradition is that Lee saw my ancestors (Stuarts) while they were moving and invited them into his house for refreshments.

All right, no big deal LOL! But it shows how he was revered that the story survived.

91 posted on 01/18/2005 7:05:51 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Tax-chick
We consider General Lee and General Jackson the "patron saints" of our home school, and we firmly believe they are in Heaven praying for us.

Very nice words indeed.

92 posted on 01/18/2005 7:07:01 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Pompah

"In his final moments General Lee was reported to have made two seperate statements (Famous Last Words) the first one as I recall was :"Tell Hill he must come up" Anyone remember the second one.?"

IIRC, "Strike the tent."


93 posted on 01/18/2005 7:07:18 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: bjs1779

Thanks! "Deo Vindice Christian School" (registered with the state under that name :-). Motto, "You may be whatever you resolve to be."

Tomorrow we'll be searching the History Channel website for good Civil War stuff!


94 posted on 01/18/2005 7:10:53 PM PST by Tax-chick ( The old woman who lives in the 15-passenger van.)
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To: onja

Yes he was. But he met another in Grant who wouldnt quit no matter what. And Lee admitted it.

If Lee would have set aside the old style Napoleon tactics and given thought to more modern tactics, things might have been a whole lot different.

The best defense is offense and it was proven back then.


95 posted on 01/18/2005 7:11:20 PM PST by crz
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To: stainlessbanner

Thank you sir! I will check them out in the morning.


96 posted on 01/18/2005 7:12:29 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Tax-chick

He had more "mercy" than Sherman and his terms of surrender for Lee were admirable, that's about it. He was elected president because half of the country was not allowed to vote. I've read the Constitution many times and I fail to see how it is that sovereign states which VOLUNTARILY entered into the Union somehow forfeited their sovereign right to secede from that Union.


97 posted on 01/18/2005 7:12:35 PM PST by wagglebee (Memo to sKerry: the only thing Bush F'ed up was your career)
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To: onja
the North had not been openly agressive

It is obvious the North was preparing for war. President Buchannan agreed to leave the forts alone if they were not attacked. Colonel Gardner sought reinforcements at a Charleston arsenal and the citizens of Charleston prevented an envoy from restocking.

Major Anderson, upon taking control of Ft. Sumter, buttoned down and sought reinforcements, but knew it would provoke Charleston citizens. Lincoln reinforced the fort and ignited four years of war.

98 posted on 01/18/2005 7:13:09 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: wagglebee

America remembers Robert E. Lee as a part of the rebel alliance and a traitor.


99 posted on 01/18/2005 7:13:56 PM PST by Clemenza (Lonely, I guess that's where I'm from...)
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To: yarddog

Yeah... BTW If you don't mind, what happened at Fort Picken's. ? It has been a few years since I studied the Civil War, will be a couple more till I study it again and don't really remember Fort Picken's.


100 posted on 01/18/2005 7:14:16 PM PST by onja
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