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Delays at polls weren't a scheme (Voting machines distributed evenly)
The Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | 1/17/05 | Mark Naymik

Posted on 01/18/2005 5:51:32 PM PST by Nascardude

When they stood on the floor of Congress recently to protest the results of Ohio's presidential vote, Democrats told a national audience about their suspicious hunch: People in Democratic strongholds were short-changed on voting machines on Election Day.

Voter groups and activists have lobbed the same accusation for weeks. Long lines in urban areas, such as Cleveland, kept John Kerry supporters from voting, they say.

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But a Plain Dealer analysis shows that, in Cuyahoga County at least, the elections board distributed machines equally to city and suburban polling locations.

The long lines at some locations appear to be more the result of timing, new voters and overwhelmed poll workers, not necessarily a shortage of machines.

Before the Nov. 2 election, the elections board allotted each Cleveland precinct one machine for every 117 registered voters within its boundaries - the same ratio of machines that suburban precincts received.

In other words, the more registered voters a particular precinct had, the more machines it received, regardless of where that precinct was.

And in the end, the busiest precincts - when measured by the number of ballots cast per machine - were actually in the suburbs, not Cleveland, according to a Plain Dealer analysis of records from the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.

Countywide, voters cast an average of nearly 71 ballots on each of the county's 8,000 machines. In Cleveland alone, voters cast an average of 62 ballots per machine. In the suburbs, the average was 74.

Brook Park's Precinct 3A had the most ballots cast per machine, with 163. Voters in that precinct were among those casting ballots at City Hall.

In Strongsville's Precinct 3C (at Edna Surrarrer School), voters cast 149 ballots per machine.

The busiest machines in Cleveland were on the West Side, in Ward 15's Precinct I, where voters at the YMCA on Pearl Road cast 101 ballots per machine.

The analysis does not include the more than 200 machines that the board distributed across the county on Election Day to replace broken machines or supplement precincts with higher-than-expected turnout. It also does not factor in voters who, facing long lines, walked away without voting. Neither election officials nor voting groups can pinpoint how many people left polls.

Despite charges that election officials failed to properly prepare for Election Day, it appears those in Cuyahoga County tried. In deciding how to distribute machines, the board used a liberal formula that included not only active voters but also inactive voters - those who had not shown up to the polls in years.

In Franklin County, which had some of the longest lines in Ohio on Election Day, officials distributed machines using a ratio based only on active voters.

Long lines did form at some of Cuyahoga's 584 polling locations. And those on Cleveland's East Side - where problems were most anticipated - received the most attention from politicians, voter groups and reporters on the lookout for glitches.

The lines formed for a number of reasons: waves of new voters; inexperienced or overwhelmed poll workers; a crush of voters during peak hours; and general confusion at larger polling sites that host multiple precincts.

Michael Vu, director of the Cuyahoga elections board, admits his office needs to improve some of its "process and procedures," but he said election workers and voters "should applaud themselves" for how Election Day unfolded.

One of the moves the board may study is better preparation for peak voting times. Unlike restaurants, which schedule staff size to accommodate their busiest hours, the elections board did not assign additional staff or machines specifically for peak times.

Each precinct had four poll workers, typically two Democrats and two Republicans. The board added a fifth poll worker to precincts it believed would be busy. Also, each polling location had an inspector to help direct voters.

That was not enough, however, to avoid lines at Woodbury Elementary School in Shaker Heights.

The polling location, which served voters from both Shaker Heights and Cleveland, housed tables and machines for six precincts.

Some voters complained of waits reaching 2½ hours.

An early morning crowd overwhelmed at least one precinct at Woodbury - Cleveland Precinct 4D - which led the chief poll worker to quit. That created a "domino effect" of problems, Vu said.

One problem pointed out by Zeola Mitchell, who worked her first presidential election on Nov. 2, was that the precinct didn't have enough machines to handle the morning rush, starting at 6:30 a.m. Woodbury was assigned nine machines for Precinct 4D, but the board sent an additional eight by early afternoon.

"After we got more machines, things were smoother after that," Mitchell said.

Still, Vu said predicting exactly where and when a surge of voters will appear is akin to "picking winning lottery numbers."

As it does in every election, the Cuyahoga board set up six offices across the county from which extra machines could be delivered quickly to crowded polling locations.

In contrast to Woodbury, Precinct 3A in Brook Park had a smooth Election Day despite heavy turnout. Voters had relatively few problems, said poll worker Sam Siverd.

"We had a crowd when we first opened, but it remained steady throughout the day," he said.

He attributed the precinct's success in part to experienced voters who needed little assistance and to a consistent flow of voters, as opposed to a sudden crush at peak hours.

The board is examining ways to reduce the congestion at some polling places, including reducing the number of precincts at certain locations. But that will take cooperation from public and private institutions that have become increasingly unwilling to host Election Day voting, Vu said.

He also said the board will consider ways to improve training of poll workers.

Other groups are planning more analysis. Last week, two senior Democratic lawmakers - U.S. Reps. Henry Waxman of California and John Conyers of Michigan - asked the Government Accountability Office, the investigative arm of Congress, to find what caused the long lines in Ohio.

Sharon McGraw, executive director of the League of Women Voters of Cleveland Educational Fund, has already done her analysis. She said "logjams" at some locations were partly the result of first-time voters relying on poorly trained or confused poll workers. She recently reviewed the Nov. 2 problems with other representatives of the league.

"It should move smoother, and part of it comes down to human errors, and part of that was confusion created by all the lawyers and everybody involved," she said.


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So much for the DU theory of some kind of vast Republican conspiracy to surpress the vote. It turns out that the Democratic board is just too retarded to know how to train their poll workers. And urban voters are too stupid to know how to vote. None of this is suprising, especially when you see the intelligence level on the Democratic Underground.

So with this being inauguration week, and in spirit of bringing the country together and reaching out to Democrats, allow me to just say this one thing to the DU conspiracy people to put the 2004 election behind us once and for all and move foward:

HA HA

1 posted on 01/18/2005 5:51:32 PM PST by Nascardude
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To: Nascardude; Miss Marple; ohioWfan; Howlin; JohnHuang2; rintense; Gabz; dansangel; NordP; Billie; ...
THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE SCREAMED FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS!
2 posted on 01/18/2005 5:53:52 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Nascardude

This is so typical of a nascar watching, beer drinking, wife beating, sexist, homophobic conservative pig. We all know it was a vast Republican conspiracy to disenfranchise as many voters as possible. There's no way on Earth that many people voted for Bush. It just isn't true. :) Denote the use of heavy sarcasm.

On the serious side, good post.


3 posted on 01/18/2005 5:55:24 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative.)
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To: Nascardude
...urban voters are too stupid to know how to vote.

Or lazy.

4 posted on 01/18/2005 5:56:38 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Oh, gee..........I am SO surprised.

Being involved in the election as I was, I was SURE it was fraud perpetrated by all the lousy dishonest Republicans in the state.

The RATS wouldn't recognize HONOR if it hit them UPSIDE the HEAD!!

(Don't expect this to make the front pages of the newspaper, annie).

5 posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:09 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you PRAYED for your President today?)
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To: anniegetyourgun
OK
6 posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:47 PM PST by digger48
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To: Nascardude
Yeah. I saw a speech by Kerry today where this Sh**head actually came out and said the Democrats had to wait in lines as long as 11 hours while Republicans just breezed on through. What an ignorant, unfounded comment, even from liar like Kerry.
7 posted on 01/18/2005 5:57:55 PM PST by drt1
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To: Nascardude
I wonder if Cuyahoga County's election board is a bipartisan board or is it controlled by democrats or republicans?
8 posted on 01/18/2005 5:58:01 PM PST by deport (Law of Probability Dispersal: Whatever it is that hits the fan will not be evenly distributed.)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Long voting lines in Ohio was result of Democrat Incompetence and Voter Ignorance.

Are you sure 'incompetence' shouldn't be read as 'impotence?'

9 posted on 01/18/2005 5:58:14 PM PST by Cornpone
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To: Nascardude
Just goes to show you that the DEMOCs are nothing if not the


10 posted on 01/18/2005 5:58:56 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: anniegetyourgun

EGGSACKLEY, Annie!


11 posted on 01/18/2005 6:01:49 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Nascardude

These kinds of scurrilious, vague and totally unsubstantiated lies are the stock in trade of John Kerry. No different than the lies he told the U.S. Senate in 1971 - no proof, no names, no individual able to answer a charge because he simply wanted to slander a whole group and nerver be called to account for any of it. Exactly what he (and all leftist Democrats) do on a regular basis.


12 posted on 01/18/2005 6:02:01 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: anniegetyourgun

:::salutes:::

Will do, commander! :-)


13 posted on 01/18/2005 6:02:45 PM PST by dansangel
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To: Nascardude

To be sure the Plain Dealer is not a right wing paper.....


14 posted on 01/18/2005 6:03:15 PM PST by duckbutt ( If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get soaking wet.)
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To: drt1
I'm sure it was like getting into the old Studio 54. I guess there was a doorman asking for party affiliation and not allowing dums to pass. Yea right. All I can hope for is that the leftists keep this up over the next decade and we will all be better off. The average Joe is starting to see right through this bullsh#t.
15 posted on 01/18/2005 6:07:54 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: writer33
We all know it was a vast Republican conspiracy to disenfranchise as many voters as possible.

Sounds to me like the Republicans had to put very little effort into that.........they were french frying themselves quite nicely.

LVM

16 posted on 01/18/2005 6:09:41 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Political head butting is nothing compared to tectonic plate head butting.)
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To: drt1

I think I know why the lines in democRAT districts were much
longer. Since the number of voting machines were equally
disbursed per this post, THE ONLY REASON COULD BE IS THAT
THOSE VOTERS WERE SLOW AS MOLASSES. May be they read slowly,
may be their brains don't function as fast as republican
districts. Just go to a US post office in a democratic city
district and see how slow the clerks are. Then go to a repub
suburban US post office. The same request will be done much
faster. I have had this experience first hand many times.

I recall standing in line at the Montego Bay, Jamaica airport
to check in for a flight to Miami. There were 6 people ahead
of us and it TOOK THEM ONE AND A HALF HOURS TO PROCESS THOSE
SIX. Good thing we had arrived plenty early, so we did not
miss the flight.


17 posted on 01/18/2005 6:10:21 PM PST by gwbiny2k
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To: farmfriend


18 posted on 01/18/2005 6:15:53 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: gwbiny2k
I agree. IMO The ignorance and disorganization of the typical Dem inner city voter explains much of ANY disparity in voting lines/times (If there even was such a disparity and it is not another invention of the Dems to cast doubt on the results of the election).

Like you, I have numerous, first hand, experiences with the basic inability of these people to organize and efficiently perform even the most rudimentary of tasks.

19 posted on 01/18/2005 6:17:53 PM PST by drt1
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To: anniegetyourgun
THIS STUFF NEEDS TO BE SCREAMED FROM THE MOUNTAINTOPS!

We don't have mountains in Ohio, unless you count a hill at 1500 ft a mountain.

Who cares what the morons like Boxer and friends have to say on this issue anyway. Nobody cares. The vast majority of voters accept the election result. The crazy wingnuts are beyond hope. GWB gets inaugurated Thursday and the 'Rats are out of power and about to anoint Howard Dean as their leader. Even a 'Rat rag like the Plain Dull knows it's over. These people whine and throw temper tamtrums because that's all they can do now.

20 posted on 01/18/2005 6:17:55 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (Mindless BushBot)
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