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It's a Matter of Parenting: The Twixters
GOPUSA ^ | January 18, 2005 | Kay R. Daly

Posted on 01/18/2005 5:08:26 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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The best thing my mother did for me was to kick my lazy butt out of her home six-and-a-half years ago. I would recommend such action for those parents who have grown-up children living in their basements. Tell them to get out, find a full-time job, and take some responsibility for themselves!

Besides, what self-respecting woman would want to date some loser who makes a career out of living in his mother's basement when he can damn well make it on his own???

1 posted on 01/18/2005 5:08:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; AnnaSASsyFR; Angelwood; aristeides; Askel5; basil; bayliving; ..

Thank Heaven FReepers aren't like that!


2 posted on 01/18/2005 5:10:24 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport 'em all; let Fox sort 'em out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I left home at 18 and my parents were so upset that they remodeled the house. My bedroom was divided into a powder room/masterbath and a second bathroom. I was invited to visit anytime, but, had to bring my own sleeping bag. Visits tended to be short.
3 posted on 01/18/2005 5:18:01 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (We won. We don't need to be forgiving. Let the heads roll!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Besides, what self-respecting woman would want to date some loser who makes a career out of living in his mother's basement when he can damn well make it on his own???

The ones that know I could afford more for them when I had no rent to pay.

4 posted on 01/18/2005 5:18:01 PM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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Besides, what self-respecting woman would want to date some loser who makes a career out of living in his mother's basement when he can damn well make it on his own???

"The ones that know I could afford more for them when I had no rent to pay."

Do you really think that you had their respect? Your "high maintenance" girlfriends were using you, dear. I dropped a guy immediately when I found out he was still living with Mom and Dad.


6 posted on 01/18/2005 5:37:44 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

When my youngest children were born, I was determined not to keep giving unlimited choices like I had with my older ones: Do you want Corn Flakes or Rice Krispies? Orange juice or milk? But somehow, even though I knew better, I kept giving the choices instead of just setting before them what they should eat. I knew better, but old psychology books have their way of becoming ingrained. They say you need to give choices so you direct the kids into where you want them to go. IF the choice is between two things you want them to eat (or do) then they will think they are deciding when you are. But every parent knows that after twice, the kids catch on and always demand a third, unmentioned choice. Always. Kids aren't stupid, but we parents sure don't learn.


7 posted on 01/18/2005 5:38:08 PM PST by formercalifornian (Daschle b-gone!)
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To: ftlpdx
"The job market IS unfriendly, devalued college degrees ARE commanding declining wages."

Some colleges are committing fraud by encouraging students to sign up for majors that have a diminishing career potential (most of the humanities). It doesn't matter if you have an advanced degree if there is no demand for it.

And there are too many advisors who don't clue the students in about the devastating effect of prerequisite courses. If you don't get the schedule just right, you miss the required course and bingo, you are committed for another year.

A close friend expected to teach music at the elementary level, when she was informed at the end of four years that she lacked several essential courses to qualify for her teaching certificate. She had run out of money at that point and ended up in a clerical job. Still she was lucky, because she hadn't taken on a huge student loan debt.

How do these kids pay back their debts with a minimum wage job?

8 posted on 01/18/2005 5:43:36 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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"How do these kids pay back their debts with a minimum wage job"?

Exactly. Parents want their kids to go to college and then expect their kids to borrow for 4 to 6 years( 60 percent of students shouldn't even be in college). Then the parents are surprised their child can't get a good paying job to pay off the debt. So they end up back at home, in debt. Parents don't take the responsibility of paying for college and their kids don't take the responsibility of growing up and moving out. Baby Boomer parents are the worst. They reap what they sow.


9 posted on 01/18/2005 6:06:14 PM PST by tbird5
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Squantos; wardaddy; Travis McGee; cyborg
Whoa....

When I just turned 23, I was a new Lieutenant in a Light Infantry unit on the Korean DMZ with no family at all: Pop had just died and mommy had run off 10 years before.

The Army was my best and only family.

My green family fed and clothed me, gave me warm blankets and occasionally a bed to sleep in. I was an only child, but now I had lots of brothers and sisters, a new daddy with an oak leaf on his hat and I could visit mamasan for a few Won. My Uncle Sugar even gave me a decent allowance!

Yeah, the chores were tough and sometimes I got angry and wanted to 'do my own thing', but I still love 'em!

12 posted on 01/18/2005 8:09:08 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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"I dropped a guy immediately when I found out he was still living with Mom and Dad."

I've always felt the real losers in this newly, stupidly named 'twixter' phenomenon were the PARENTS who put up with it. I knew far too many middle-aged moms who'd bitch about their sons or daughters living at home and driving a new car--yet they didn't do a thing about it.


13 posted on 01/18/2005 8:35:54 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (NO BLOOD FOR CHOCOLATE! Get the UN-ignoring, unilateralist Frogs out of Ivory Coast!)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Well said....... My Daddy was a Proctologist and my Mommy was an Optometrists thus the reason for my shitty outlook on life.......


14 posted on 01/18/2005 9:51:23 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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There's too many spoiled people in our society

Parents do their kids a disservice by allowing them to stay home comfortably, past 18 or 19.

If you stay home, it should suck, so that moving out is seen as a positive development. No bigscreens, no playstation 9 hrs a day, no frigging new SUV to drive around while Mom pays your insurance, home by 1100, no parties, and on and on and on.

It's one thing to stay home for a short period to "save money", quite another to make it a lifestyle choice so you can live larger than you've EARNED.

I have zero tolerance for this bs, these kids have NO IDEA how to live within their means, so their parents get to support them until they're 40???

17 posted on 01/19/2005 6:44:19 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Also related.

When I was a child, nearly all fantasy was directed at children - Disney movies etc. Now the serious fantasy is directed at adults.

30ish co-workers belong to all sorts of fantasy/magic online groups, carry around their Dungeons and Dragons type books, live for the release of the next Harry Potter book or movie (also Lord of the Rings) etc.

I even have a neighbor in his 70s who rhapsodizes about the latest Harry Potter book - of course he also tries to date women 40 years younger too.

Fantasy sports leagues etc.

While an argument could be made that all tv, movies, books are escapist. Most of the stuff that "adults" are into now has crossed over the line. Even the "reality" shows are anything but, yet they are addicted to those too.

This spills over into real life as one of the most addicted to reality tv people I know is still convinced that the DC area snipers were framed and it was really white supremacists etc.

Or maybe most of these fantasy devotees are really liberals?


19 posted on 01/19/2005 7:12:34 AM PST by Let's Roll (Democrats - What happens when mental illness manifests itself as a political party.)
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If you stay home, it should suck, so that moving out is seen as a positive development.

I started working at 15, and the day I brought home my first paycheck was the day I started paying 'rent'.

I know now it was really just a token amount to teach me responsibility. I also paid for my gas, insurance & car.

(DAMN I miss that '69 Mustang)

Anyway, paying for all of that, and making a whopping $1.25 an hour, I still considered myself filthy rich!

We plan on doing the same for our twin daughters, and (baring their attending college) fully expect them to be on their own by the time they turn 20.

20 posted on 01/19/2005 7:20:37 AM PST by MamaTexan ( The foundation of a Republic --- Man owes obedience to his Creator, NOT his creation)
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