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1 posted on 01/18/2005 1:43:27 PM PST by RWR8189
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The Republican establishment at every level was furious, contending that Reagan's challenge had made it much less likely that President Ford could be elected.

I always thought it wasn't Ford who lost that election (and it certainly wasn't Carter who won it). It was NIXON who lost that election. Or, more specifically, Watergate.

Anyone the Dems happened to nominate was sure to win. Of that, Carter was proof positive.

2 posted on 01/18/2005 1:49:49 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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Couple of quibbles with Novak...

the only campaign Reagan ever lost

Reagan made a try for the Presidential nomination in 1968 and lost. It wasn't a full-bore attempt like in '76, but it still counted.

Ronald Reagan was hardly known outside California in 1976.

As a politician, maybe. But being a former movie AND television star, I'm sure most folks outside CA had at least heard of or seen the man. Especially since the TV show he hosted, General Electric Theater regularly won its Sunday night time slot (until Gunsmoke started.)

3 posted on 01/18/2005 1:52:39 PM PST by TheBigB (Life is good. It'd be better if Jaime Pressly was here naked with a pizza. But it's still damn good.)
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Interesting. I actully think that the swing in the national mood started in 1968 when the leftist radicals got their foot in the door of the democrat party. Over a period of 25+ years, they have done alot to drive people away. There is not room in the democrat party if you do not follow leftist orthodoxy.


4 posted on 01/18/2005 1:55:25 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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I don't like the way that they keep referring to Reagan as a B-movie actor. Reagan was a big wealthy movie star - he just wasn't the top 3 or 4 at any one time. A B Movie actor is like Long Duck Dong from Sixteen Candles who went on to be in a few more things, or James Gandolfini before he hit it big in the Sopranos.


8 posted on 01/18/2005 2:06:55 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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Sort of off the topic of the article, but I've always wondered (since I wasnt alive at the time): If JFK hadnt been assassinated, could Goldwater have beaten him?? What would have been different had this have happened??

Discuss.


10 posted on 01/18/2005 2:10:49 PM PST by GOP_Raider (With a QB named Kerry, is it any wonder the Raiders finished 5-11 this year?)
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Unforutnately between 1976 and 1980, many bad things happened. Carter let the birth of Islamic terrorist movement begin in 1979 unheeded. He also managed to give away the Panama Canal.


14 posted on 01/18/2005 2:27:27 PM PST by Barney Gumble (http://purveyors-of-truth.blogspot.com/)
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18 posted on 01/18/2005 2:34:52 PM PST by mc6809e
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But this leaves aside a massive WHAT IF.

What if Carter hadn't been such an incompetent ?

As it happenned, he presided over the high water mark of Soviet military power and the high water mark of the cultural left (the whole cocaine, disco, meat rack bar, waterbed, "golden age of porn" era).


20 posted on 01/18/2005 2:43:37 PM PST by Sam the Sham
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So there's hope for McClintock and California after all, huh?


24 posted on 01/18/2005 2:51:45 PM PST by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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This article mentions George Wallace. I am not sure he is given his due in history. Democrats whine about Nader giving Bush the 2000 election. But Wallace had a significant candidacy in 1968 which probably gave the election to Nixon and certainly gave him the road map for his southern strategy in 1972. Wallace was a populist and ahead of his time. He had great stump speeches. He talked about pointy head pseudo intellectuals and talked about the federal government by saying the states throw a tax dollar across the Potomac and the feds throw the states back a nickel. He was a real threat to the Democrat establishment and he had the most popular votes of any Dem presidential candidate when he was shot down on the campaign trail by Arthur Lee Bremer. Reagan would hit the sames themes as Wallace but without the racist baggage and with the class of a movie actor instead of a lifelong pol who lost his first campaign in a race for dogcatcher. Of course Reagan also was shot by the new and improved version of a crazed lone assassin in John Hinckley.


27 posted on 01/18/2005 2:56:31 PM PST by Biblebelter
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It's worth remembering that so much of the fuel for the Reagan fire came from conservative reaction against Nixon and Kissinger (and then, of course, Ford). It wasn't just frustration from the middle of the electorate with the economy, or, later, the hostages. (Those explanations get fastened onto to help make Carter look like a victim of circumstances, and not the flag bearer for a losing approach.)

It's amazing to look back and watch Ford suck up to the Soviets. This is an American president? No wonder people like Reagan were so angry. Ford was the president of a defeated nation.

I was just a pup back in the late 70's, but I remember my dad used to take me along when we had to wait for an hour or more to get gas-- gas we could get only every other day. I remember my dad being pissed off about it a lot, but I couldn't understand why at the time.

Gas lines, hostages, Soviets in Afghanistan, double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, the sweater in the Oval Office-- damn, how did anyone in their right mind think that Carter could be re-elected?

How do the Democrats get away with pretending they don't remember ruining the country back then, too?

33 posted on 01/18/2005 3:25:57 PM PST by Timm
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1976 was the campaign that got me interested in politics. While the author is right about Sears (who was fired after Reagan lost to George the Elder in Iowa, 1980), he is wrong in saying that the "Reagan Democrat" phenomenon was unrecognized. In 1976, Reagan was doing remarkably better in those states (e.g. Indiana) that had cross-over voting. Reagan Democrats were not going to bother with Jerry Brown, Jimmy Carter, Frank Church or Mo Udall. Moreover, many INDEPENDENTS flocked to these primaries because Regan represented them.

I also remember Reagan on either Merv Griffin or Phil Donahue, a couple of years later making it clear that he knew that 59% of the country had to be considered "conservative."


34 posted on 01/18/2005 3:36:36 PM PST by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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"THE ONLY STATEWIDE elected Texas Republican official in 1976, Senator John Tower, was Ford's national-convention floor manager. "

True, but he wasn't allowed on the floor. He had to wander the halls in embarrassment because we (the Texas Reaganites) would not allow Tower to be a delegate.

It was very immature of us but we were inexperienced, heady with our new power and had been treated like dogs by the Tower/Ford establishment. I will always regret my roll in hind site.

39 posted on 01/18/2005 4:58:35 PM PST by bayourod (America, the greatest nation in history is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants are an asset.)
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The GOP is one election away from big loses if the keep spending like drunken sailors.


41 posted on 01/18/2005 5:17:54 PM PST by John Lenin
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I am always taken by the fact that Ronald Regan was always in the right place at the right time. Put another way, he was always where he needed to be. It is uncanny. I confess that I do not necessariy subscribe to divine interventionalism, but if anyone was tapped by God, it was Ronald Reagan. He lost in 1976 because he was supposed to lose. And we are all much richer because of it.
45 posted on 01/18/2005 11:19:28 PM PST by fhayek
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Would anyone happen to have a link to the video of RR's 76 speech which he gave on the stage, impromptu, congratulating Ford?

I need this video.


52 posted on 06/19/2006 8:48:46 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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