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Study blasts colorectal screening test
MSNBC ^ | 01/18/05 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/18/2005 7:33:03 AM PST by JusticeTalion

Potentially cancerous growths missed 95 percent of the time

PHILADELPHIA - A common screening test failed to detect potentially cancerous colon growths 95 percent of the time, falsely reassuring patients and doctors, according to a new study.

Researchers found that the digital, in-office test on stool samples was not as reliable as a six-sample test given to patients to do on their own at home — although even that test detected potentially cancerous growths less than 24 percent of the time.

"What we found is that it was pretty worthless," Dr. David Lieberman, one of the study's authors, said of the in-office test. "It's a wake-up call that we shouldn't be relying on this test."

God bless our troops wherever they may be.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: coloncancer; colorectal; health; healthcare; screening; test
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; SierraWasp
Beer has lots of fiber in it, right? Dark Beer=Dark Fiber. I get it!

Here's to Reagan's colon!

41 posted on 01/18/2005 12:12:01 PM PST by snopercod (Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace. - Amelia Earhart)
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To: SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is only for old people. What are we doing here? And what is this Dark Fiber Ernest is talking about...


42 posted on 01/18/2005 4:26:53 PM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach; snopercod
Heck I ain't old, or so I've been told, by someone who's bold, and din't wanna be left in the cold, or left outta the fold... so to speak!

Apples?!? I don't got to show you no steenkin APPLES!!!

An apple a day... keeps the Doctor away, right Ernest???

Dark fibre... Isn't that what hits the proverbial fan and coats the light bulbs till everything goes dark??? (or is that "Dark Matter?")

He snopercod and tubebender! Have either of you guys ever seen an arobic digester??? (you know... like down at the water treatment plant?)

43 posted on 01/18/2005 4:51:40 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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To: SierraWasp
arobic digester

Sure. That's where the fecal debris hits the fan.

44 posted on 01/18/2005 5:06:40 PM PST by snopercod (Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace. - Amelia Earhart)
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To: tubebender
This is only for old people.

Exactly what I said about my recent 40th high school reunion.

45 posted on 01/18/2005 5:07:46 PM PST by snopercod (Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace. - Amelia Earhart)
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To: snopercod
"debris"

What's with the french fried lingo, there, young man??? Sounds like a Kerry matter to me!!!

46 posted on 01/18/2005 5:14:02 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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To: SierraWasp
Bite your tongue young man!

My wife is a medical transcriptionist, so we talk about "fecal debris" and stuff like that over supper.

47 posted on 01/18/2005 5:18:10 PM PST by snopercod (Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace. - Amelia Earhart)
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To: tubebender; Ernest_at_the_Beach
"And what is this Dark Fiber Ernest is talking about..."

I'm not sure whether this is found on his beachfront, or if he's afraid of being left in the dark about it, or what!!!

Maybe he's recalling Dandy Don Merideth singin "Turn Out The Lights, The Party's Over!" But then that would have been "Dark Matter" and that's a truly universal subject, come to think of it...

48 posted on 01/18/2005 5:19:26 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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To: SierraWasp

So what do you think of the rectum as a whole?


49 posted on 01/18/2005 5:23:31 PM PST by snopercod (Courage is the price that life exacts for granting peace. - Amelia Earhart)
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To: goodnesswins

The tastless pills that take the place of the liquid are called visicol. Ask for them next time.


50 posted on 01/18/2005 5:23:54 PM PST by monkey
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To: snopercod
I know! I was raised in a family of "medical professionals" and they can be really, REALLY, tasteless!!!

I don't wanna "bite my tongue!" My health insurance has a $2,500 calendar year deductible and it's too early in the calendar year to start in on expenses of stitching it up if it bleeds, if ya know what I mean...

51 posted on 01/18/2005 5:24:51 PM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophisticated sophistry...)
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To: snopercod
So what do you think of the rectum as a whole Hole?

Use your spil cker nxt tyme...

52 posted on 01/18/2005 6:11:26 PM PST by tubebender (If I had know I would live this long I would have taken better care of myself...)
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To: Ole Okie
The Gastroenterologist removed 5 relatively small polyps,

How....and at the same time?

(I'm turning 53 and my doc suggested I have this done...but I'm scared sh_tless... LOL!)

53 posted on 01/18/2005 6:16:51 PM PST by eddie willers
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To: avitot

Is the CT colonography as effective as colonoscopy at spotting and evaluating polyps? Are the preps similar?


54 posted on 01/18/2005 6:36:43 PM PST by SFConservative
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To: eddie willers

Check your freepmail.


55 posted on 01/18/2005 6:38:05 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: SFConservative
ct colonograghy prep is easier and there are studies underway for new technique that doesn't require the laxative. instead people drink a barium based liquid that the computer can then use to distinguish poop from polyp making it much more palatable.the polyp pick up rate is equivalent-however you cant biopsy an image so the positive studies than go to conventional scope-but consider that there is a .1% perforation rate with scoping, and a high rate of incomplete exam(they couldn't get all the way though) it makes sense to start with ct. also when they can'tget all the way through, ct can finish the diagnostic job.
56 posted on 01/18/2005 7:06:27 PM PST by avitot
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To: goodnesswins

I haven't had one, but after I do, I'll ask him if he could write a note for my wife saying that my head is not up there.


57 posted on 01/18/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by MyFreedomIHoldDear
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To: mewzilla

Yep. If your doc is having you drink a gallon of fluid, he's a little out of date on his procedure. My family has a history of this sort of cancer, so I'm getting checked for the first time later this month. Purely preventative, but I hope there's nothing there.


58 posted on 01/18/2005 7:11:26 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: JusticeTalion

I did not see any mention of diverticulitis (SP)> I had the procedure done. The first procedure was call a "Flex Sig" where they only go to the first bend in the colon and the second one was the full deal. They had given me some sort of sedative. I could fell the camera inching its way through the various curves that it had to travel. The most embarrassing thing was the amount of gas that I passed in the recovery room. But then again that is normal for a guy, what can I say.


59 posted on 01/18/2005 7:17:34 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: avitot

Thanks for the info. I assume that the CT approach is also cheaper, though it carries some probability of having to pay the cost of colonoscopy anyway if positive. So is there a logic here that says without history of problems, start and monitor with CT, and with history of problems, go directly to and periodically repeat colonoscopy?


60 posted on 01/18/2005 7:22:24 PM PST by SFConservative
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