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I don't hate these people or their culture. I'm half latino myself. It's the disrespect for our laws that I can't stand.
1 posted on 01/17/2005 9:26:19 PM PST by Citizen James
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To: Citizen James

Somehow I just can't find the tears. All they have to do to avoid the peril and such is stay on their side of the damn border. NO SYMPATHY


2 posted on 01/17/2005 9:36:21 PM PST by Sterco
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To: Citizen James

Dangerous Border crossings for "undocumented immigrants":

I agree with your comments, but have heard how they rely on the smugglers, and do as they say. I know of a family that paid $3,000 for instructions on coming to America. Then paid another $1,000 when they made it to the border. Not speaking the language of our country, how would we expect them to understand the rules/laws? They are exploited by the ones encouraging &/or assisting them to cross the borders. The children get my sympathy.


4 posted on 01/17/2005 9:57:38 PM PST by Walkenfree (Bad can get worse & good can get better.)
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To: Citizen James

Hey I want to help the Mexicans. I just want secure borders too.


6 posted on 01/17/2005 10:40:10 PM PST by bahblahbah
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To: Citizen James; gubamyster; NewRomeTacitus; HiJinx

Feh! Invaders as pillars of the community ping.

Oh, isn't the primitive's graffiti lovely. And look! They left buffalo testes hanging from your rearview mirror.

That means "thanks for letting us kill of some of your livestock, while we're trashing your property and Invading your country."


7 posted on 01/17/2005 10:50:05 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


8 posted on 01/17/2005 11:28:11 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: Citizen James
Well, BooHooHoo!! Cry me a freaking river. Get the HELL out of my country, if you're here ILLEGALLY!!!!

This story reminds me, I sent 500+ rounds downrange last week, need to restock my supplies.

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"The Era of Osama lasted about an hour, from the time the first plane hit the tower to the moment the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."
Toward FREEDOM

9 posted on 01/17/2005 11:50:21 PM PST by Neil E. Wright (An oath is FOREVER)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

LDC, you came up with a great term for these kind of stories but it fell off my brain. Could you remind me and fill us in on the press's template strategy?


10 posted on 01/17/2005 11:56:39 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus (Evil propagator/defender of traditional American culture.)
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To: Citizen James; Sterco; Walkenfree; bahblahbah; gubamyster; NewRomeTacitus; HiJinx; 1_Inch_Group; ...
>"Religion is their spiritual passport in the absence of authorization," she said. "They get sanctioned by God to do this."<

_OK:
Is the Catholic Church encouraging illegal immigration from Mexico to the U.S.?
I suspect it is.
I'm not trying to rip on any individual Catholics, but I want to know the official stance of the Catholic church on illegal immigration.

11 posted on 01/18/2005 12:12:45 AM PST by FBD ("A nation without borders is not a nation." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Citizen James
The left hates religion except when cute little brown skinned 3rd world people practice it. This also includes Islam
15 posted on 01/18/2005 3:14:57 AM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: Citizen James
"Religion is their spiritual passport in the absence of authorization," she said. "They get sanctioned by God to do this."

And jihadists?

16 posted on 01/18/2005 3:29:20 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Citizen James

Ah, isn't that special.


17 posted on 01/18/2005 4:15:12 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Citizen James
"Religion is their spiritual passport in the absence of authorization," she said. "They get sanctioned by God to do this."

Which part of the Bible tells us to break the law and steal from our neighbor? I wish someone would tell me so I could find "sanction" too.

18 posted on 01/18/2005 4:35:43 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Citizen James

And I suppose their "faith" condones breaking the laws of neighboring countries.


35 posted on 01/18/2005 9:13:15 AM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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To: mindspy; mysto; holyscroller; ozarkgirl; Outland; Rick Deckard; ZeitgeistSurfer; Klickitat; ...

Another recent news item:


Every day as many as 4,000 illegal immigrants cross the border into Arizona, and you pay for it in ways you might not even think.

The 5 i-Team's Chris Hayes broke down the numbers to see just how much of the tab you're picking up.

Every minute, at least one immigrant crosses the border into Arizona.

They're coming here for a new life, and while most might be looking for better jobs here, many are also finding benefits we all pay for.

Small business owner Velia Guethe said, "I think about the hospitals and the schooling."

Guethe just opened a small coffee shop in Guadalupe called Coffee De Mexico.

Guadalupe is a small town of just one square mile -- located between Phoenix and Tempe, at the base of South Mountain.

Guethe told us she understands Mexican immigrants are just doing what's best for their families, but she worries about the expense.

"I do want them to help us with the burden cost of all these expensive things."

Like health care.

John Rivers of the Arizona Hospital and Healthcare Association told us, "This is a problem for every hospital in Arizona."

At Senator Jon Kyle's request, his organization calculated the cost to Arizona hospitals for treating illegal immigrants at 31 million dollars in just one year.

That $31 million would pay for more than the cost of a new trauma center here in the valley.

And Rivers said the expense could be much more.

"That's a bare minimum number. The truth is, nobody knows what the number is, I mean we can estimate, but frankly it's not much more than a wild guess."

Lupita Martinez is a valley restaurant owner who thinks about the costs often.

But she says she also may benefit from illegal immigration.
She suspects illegal workers are the only ones willing to accept her starting pay of $8 dollars an hour.

She demands legal documentation, but she thinks many workers can easily get fake documents -- just as they would do to apply for Welfare.

And according to the Center for Immigration Studies, Welfare payments, including food stamps to Illegal immigrants in Arizona cost us $4,698,000 in 2001.

That's enough to put away more than 250 prisoners for a full year.

There's another expense you've probably never imagined.

Tucked behind a familiar stretch of I-10, and right across from one of Phoenix's most popular resorts is an indigent burial ground.

Many of the grave sites are marked John Doe or Jane Doe.

They're likely illegal immigrants who died shortly after coming to the United States.

In the last five years Maricopa County alone has buried 100 unidentified people at an estimated cost of more than $197,000. That's enough to pay the five year salary for any one of the more than twenty Maricopa County jobs now open.

Immigrants say they pick up some of the costs themselves.

The 5i-Team attended an English class in which more than 20 immigrants attended.

The students told us they were restaurant employees, mechanics and other low wage workers.

From their perspective, they pay taxes and many times can't take advantage of the services.

They say they can prove we can't afford life without them.

http://www.kpho.com/Global/story.asp?S=2537000&nav=DIH7Ssy8

KPHO-Phoenix Az, Jan. 14, 2005


37 posted on 01/18/2005 9:18:56 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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