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Roe v. Wade Overturned? - MUST READ - ACTION ALERT
http://www.reclaimamerica.org/ ^ | 17 January 2004 | http://www.reclaimamerica.org/

Posted on 01/17/2005 12:53:02 PM PST by davidosborne

C E N T E R F O R R E C L A I M I N G A M E R I C A From the Desk of Dr. Gary Cass, Executive Director + + PRO-LIFE ALERT,

1/17/2005 Supreme Court receives case to overturn Roe v. Wade (Forward to your pro-life friends)

On January 18, the U.S. Supreme Court will begin a process that could overturn Roe v. Wade! Because you have stood with the Center for Reclaiming America on pro-life issues, I wanted to alert you to this news. On January 18, Norma McCorvey (the original "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade) will file a legal appeal with the Supreme Court to have Roe v. Wade reversed. I will be in Washington, D.C., on that day to stand with our friends at The Justice Foundation in support of this case. The Justice Foundation has invested thousands upon thousands of hours in this case. They have gathered an enormous body of evidence to support Norma's case. Chris, this is a powerful opportunity to refute Roe v. Wade! Here is how you can help. First, notify your friends. Forward this message to everyone you know. We simply must get the word out. Second, please pray for Norma and the team at The Justice Foundation. Set aside time on January 18, specifically, to pray. Third, find out more about this case and how you can impact The Justice Foundation’s efforts here: http://www.operationoutcry.org Thank you! Dr. Gary Cass Executive Director Center for Reclaiming America + + For CENTER coverage of this issue: http://www.reclaimamerica.org/pages/operation/operationout.asp + + The Center for Reclaiming America, established by Dr. D. James Kennedy, is an outreach of Coral Ridge Ministries to inform the American public and motivate Christians to defend and implement the biblical principles on which our country was founded. The Center, led by Executive Director Dr. Gary Cass, provides non-partisan, non-denominational information, training, and support to all those interested in impacting the culture and renewing the vision set forth by our Founding Fathers. Questions? cfra@coralridge.org


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 18january2005; abortion; carnie; janurary182005; overturnroevwade; prolife; roevwade; ussc
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To: davidosborne; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; ..

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

81 posted on 01/17/2005 2:41:48 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: Coleus
Do you know anyone in your prolife circles that knows these people that are filing to overturn Roe vs. Wade? If so, can anyone get a message? Add to their arguments that Bush declared to fight human trafficking in his SOTU speech.

Abortion supports human trafficking.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1322431/posts

Thousands of children are being reduced to commodities in a trade in human misery. They are bought and sold to satisfy perverted sexual appetites, to provide slave labour, or, worst of all, to be harvested for their organs and body parts so that the rich and their children can live at their expense (Tyler 2003:3). The flow of organs and other body parts tends to imitate the flight of capital – from the impoverished South to the North.

Harvesting Fetal Body Parts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1306761/posts

82 posted on 01/17/2005 3:07:17 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: johnb838
Agreed, but I felt compelled to quote the court verbatim, for some reason. :)
83 posted on 01/17/2005 3:13:58 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: davidosborne

Pro-life bump.


84 posted on 01/17/2005 3:14:27 PM PST by mowkeka
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To: Poohbah; davidosborne

There is new evidence and knowledge.

Although the R. v W majority opinion was incredibly wrong about what Blackburn called a lack of knowledge about the beginning of life and about legal precidents, we have even more scientific evidence that each life begins at fertilization or at the time that DNA division begins (with the alignment of spindle fibers along the chromosomes).

Anyone who denies the origin of human life at the one-cell stage is lying or ignoring what we have learned by in vitro fertilization, ultrasound, and even cloning and other manipulation of living organisms at very early stages.


85 posted on 01/17/2005 3:57:55 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc
here is new evidence and knowledge.

And a long-closed case.

The Supreme Court can't reactivate closed cases to satisfy anyone's whim.

86 posted on 01/17/2005 4:00:07 PM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: Poohbah

You don't know much of what happened in the Roe case. Mrs. McCorvey was used and abused. I believe that the lawyers who supposedly represented her committed malpractice and fraud. By the time she figured out what happened, it was too late.

She had to wait until someone like Allan Parker and the Justice Foundation, as well as Operation Outcry and Silent No More could step up to help her.

Also, there is new legal standing, with some other case overturned in the last few years, opening the way to this filing.

Would you have let Justice Taney's ruling concerning Dred Scot stand because of "established law" and "relevence"?

Human beings, our children, are killed by abortion - nearly 4000 a day, 40 to 45 million in 32 years.


87 posted on 01/17/2005 4:06:11 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Calpernia

Thousands of children are being reduced to commodities in a trade in human misery. >>>

That's just exactly what human cloning and embryonic stem cell research does.


88 posted on 01/17/2005 4:09:14 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya! Kill babies, Save the Bears!!)
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To: Ready4Freddy

The laws are still on the books and have never been negated. We in Texas have done everything we could to moderate the effects of this judicial travesty, including our Prenatal Protection Act of 2001 which names the unborn child an individual from fertilization until natural death.


89 posted on 01/17/2005 4:09:51 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: hocndoc

Whatever we think of the likelihood of success, we should still pray for this. I've been praying for this challenge for several months now.


90 posted on 01/17/2005 4:12:17 PM PST by UnbornChild
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To: hocndoc
You don't know much of what happened in the Roe case. Mrs. McCorvey was used and abused. I believe that the lawyers who supposedly represented her committed malpractice and fraud. By the time she figured out what happened, it was too late.

The claim of malpractice and fraud is not sustainable at this date, especially because McCorvey actually won her case.

She had to wait until someone like Allan Parker and the Justice Foundation, as well as Operation Outcry and Silent No More could step up to help her.

Here's the problem: it's 32 years after the fact. No amount of arm-waving is going to change that.

Also, there is new legal standing, with some other case overturned in the last few years, opening the way to this filing.

There isn't standing for a Rule 60(b) motion at this late a date, especially by the prevailing party.

Would you have let Justice Taney's ruling concerning Dred Scot stand because of "established law" and "relevence"?

You're the second person to raise the question. That case was rendered moot by the 13th Amendment.

Human beings, our children, are killed by abortion - nearly 4000 a day, 40 to 45 million in 32 years.

Fine. Do something effective about it. This isn't an effective maneuver.

91 posted on 01/17/2005 4:13:35 PM PST by Poohbah (God must love fools. He makes so many of them...)
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To: Poohbah

I agree that it probably won't be taken up by the Court. I prefer the post world war two precedent where we convicted the Nazis for performing abortion because it was a "crime against humanity."

Most of the liberals on the court should be horse whipped.


92 posted on 01/17/2005 4:33:05 PM PST by FederalistVet (Hitler was a liberal!)
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To: MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...
It is the accepted line that the Supreme Court as currently aligned stands 6 to 3 against overturning Roe v Wade.

Two of the Pro-Aborts will have to retire and be replaced with Pro-Lifers.

Chief Rehnquist will more than likely be the first to retire so we are hoping that President Bush will appoint, and the Senate will confirm 3 Pro-Life Justices in the next 4 years to replace Rehnquist and two Pro-Aborts.

Then after all that is done a case will have to be presented for the Court to hear and if all goes right they would overturn Roe. Currently 30 States' have laws on the books banning or restricting abortion.

Of course we don't know who will be the replacements by Bush let alone who the next president might appoint to reinstate Roe.

Or we could support current legislation that would overturn Roe, protect the sanctity of marraige, and restore full freedon of Religion to the country. It only requires a simple majority in both houses and Presidential signature to become law.

We the People Act (HR 3893)- Prohibits the Supreme Court and each Federal court from adjudicating any claim or relying on judicial decisions involving: (1) State or local laws, regulations, or policies concerning the free exercise or establishment of religion; (2) the right of privacy, including issues of sexual practices, orientation, or reproduction; or (3) the right to marry without regard to sex or sexual orientation where based upon equal protection of the laws.

93 posted on 01/17/2005 4:42:17 PM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: hocndoc
Not quite true, doc.

From the 5th Circuit decision:

Under Texas law, statutes may be repealed expressly or by implication. See Gordon v. Lake, 356 S.W.2d 138, 139 (Tex. 1962). The Texas statutes that criminalized abortion (former Penal Code Articles 1191, 1192, 1193, 1194 and 1196) and were at issue in Roe have, at least, been repealed by implication. Currently, Texas regulates abortion in a number of ways.
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These regulatory provisions cannot be harmonized with provisions that purport to criminalize abortion. There is no way to enforce both sets of laws; the current regulations are intended to form a comprehensive scheme — not an addendum to the criminal statutes struck down in Roe. As the court stated in Weeks, a strikingly similar case, “it is clearly inconsistent to provide in one statute that abortions are permissible if set guidelines are followed and in another provide that abortions are criminally prohibited.” 733 F. Supp. at 1038. Thus, because the statutes declared unconstitutional in Roe have been repealed, McCorvey’s 60(b) motion is moot.

BTW, the 5th Circuit's Opinion can be found here, in McCorvey v Hill, No. 03-10711, 9/17/2004. Odd that they took so long to appeal the 5th's decision - may have had to do some shopping to find an attorney who would take an appeal that already had 2 strikes against it.

This appeal isn't about abortion per se- it's about whether or not McCorvey has presented a justiciable case or controversy. Two Federal courts have already ruled that she has not, and a 3rd is about to deny her writ w/o comment (my prediction).

The laws are still on the books and have never been negated.

94 posted on 01/17/2005 4:53:48 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: conspiratoristo; dubyaismypresident; Pontiac; Commiewatcher; GOP_Lady; boxerblues; DollyCali; ...

Pass it on! (PING!)


95 posted on 01/17/2005 4:56:45 PM PST by Las Vegas Dave
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96 posted on 01/17/2005 5:10:24 PM PST by jla
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To: Coleus

Thousands of children are being reduced to commodities in a trade in human misery. >>>

That's just exactly what human cloning and embryonic stem cell research does.




EXACTLY!! :)

This is why I think it is prudent that the abortion/stem cell issue is kept with the human trafficking problem.


97 posted on 01/17/2005 5:20:06 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Poohbah

You do point out some of the problems with judicial highhandedness and legislation from the bench. Most of us are not lawyers and don't even know where to look for the booby traps.

The Court ignored precedent and factual science in favor of what ifs and amphibian embryology. Most horribly, they distorted the 14th Amendment and ignored that our Nation protects the right to life of non-citizens.

Texas has not repealed our abortion laws, we have made accomodations forced by R v. W.

Norma McCovey has herself been harmed by the fraud of Weddington and her co-horts.




As to timeliness - one of the cases used as an example was overturned after over 40 years (NAACP vs. Duval County School).


98 posted on 01/17/2005 5:21:25 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: cpforlife.org

I hope this happens soon.


99 posted on 01/17/2005 5:27:37 PM PST by redgolum
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To: Ready4Freddy

The Justice Foundation has been the legal council on this case all along.

The petition explicitely addresses the laws in Texas, and the supposition that the case is moot and especially the "implication" argument.


100 posted on 01/17/2005 5:29:33 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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