[livius]

The problem is that we have been tiptoeing around the Muslims, hoping they would be grateful to us for liberating them. There are probably many who are, but we should have been much more aggressive with the ones who aren't and are just basically carrying on jihad-as-usual.

The other problem is that the Church has not been very forthright in supporting Christians anywhere, and always kowtows to the Muslims. I doubt that anything is going to happen to change this, even if the unfortunate bishop appears in one of their gruesome videos.

[Destro]

The other problem is that the Church State Dept./American foreign policy has not been very forthright in supporting Christians anywhere, and always kowtows to the Muslims.

[Kolokotronis]

"The other problem is that the Church has not been very forthright in supporting Christians anywhere, and always kowtows to the Muslims. I doubt that anything is going to happen to change this, even if the unfortunate bishop appears in one of their gruesome videos."

Unfortunately, I think you're right. And it won't just be the Roman Church that does nothing. The West, including the US will do nothing. But this isn't anything new. In 1922,the Turks sacked the City of Smyrna. The Greek Orthodox Metropolitan there, +Chrysostomos was set upon by a mob of Turks. It was reported,"They (the Turks) uprooted his eyes and, while he was bleeding, dragged him by his beard through the streets of the Turkish quarter. He was beaten and kicked, and pieces of his skin cut off. All the while, Chrysostomos, his pace face covered with blood, had his face turned upwards, continuously praying "Holy Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." Every now and then, when he had the strength to do so, he would raise his right hand and blessed his persecutors. A Turk realized what Chrysostomos was doing and got so furious that he cut off the Metropolitan's hand with his sword. Metropolitan Chrysostomos fell to the ground, and was hacked to pieces by the angry mob." All the while there was a fleet of Allied ships, including American, in the harbor watching and doing next to nothing.