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Christian family butchered in NJ
NewJersey.com ^

Posted on 01/16/2005 9:50:21 PM PST by ddtorque

Islamic extremists may have murdered four members of a Coptic Orthodox family found bound, gagged and with their throats slit on Friday in their Jersey City home, a law-enforcement official familiar with the case said.

...Hossam Armanious, 47, Amal Garas, 37, and their daughters Sylvia, 15, and Monica, 8, were found dead in their Oakland Avenue home early Friday after family members alerted police that nobody had heard from them in days.

...Friends, relatives and co-worshippers of the devout family spent much of Saturday wondering how the seemingly upstanding Armanious family could fall victim to such a shockingly brutal crime. Several spoke of Hossam Armanious' participation in heated discussions about the Islamic faith on the Paltalk.com messenger service and threats he received for expressing his views about the religion.

...translation of passage 47:4 of the Quran reads in part: "Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers [in fight], smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly [on them]."

...The Armanious family moved to the United States from Egypt in part to escape religious persecution. Hossam Armanious had sensed a rise in anti-Christian extremism and wanted to make a better life for his family in America, Ayman Garas said.

...Fred Ayad, deacon of the couple's St. George Coptic Orthodox Church, said that the entire community was in a "panic" over the apparent targeting of the family, as well as the murders of a Coptic deacon in December and a Coptic cabdriver in late 2003.

...Copts are Egyptian Christians, a minority group of about 6 million in a nation of 60 million, and have been killed in religious rioting and during attacks on Christian churches by Islamic militants. Coptic leaders also say they lack representation in the Egyptian government and are treated like second-class citizens.

(Excerpt) Read more at northjersey.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armanious; christian; coptic; crime; egypt; islam; newjersey; terror
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1 posted on 01/16/2005 9:50:23 PM PST by ddtorque
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We need to get control of our borders now. The northeastern states are being overrun with illegal Muslim immigration.


2 posted on 01/16/2005 9:53:45 PM PST by nj26
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To: ddtorque

Has this story been picked up by the MSM yet? .....Fox News?


3 posted on 01/16/2005 9:54:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: nj26

Tens of thousands of Muslims every year are apprehended at the U.S.-Mexican border attempting to enter the country illegally, so God only knows how many make it in.


4 posted on 01/16/2005 9:56:36 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Coptic leaders also say they lack representation in the Egyptian government and are treated like second-class citizens.

Well, I'm glad to see they are treated so well here (/sarcasm)
5 posted on 01/16/2005 9:56:42 PM PST by freakboy
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is totally unacceptable. The FBI needs to infiltrate these groups asap. They did it to the KKK and they should do it here.


6 posted on 01/16/2005 9:57:02 PM PST by winner3000
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PalTalk political forums have been virtually over run by Muslim rooms. I used to use PalTalk. It was a nice way to create a private room to talk to family and share cam pictures. But, we stopped doing so after my brother had his account stolen by hackers, along with all his personal information he had given to PalTalk.


7 posted on 01/16/2005 9:57:39 PM PST by Conservababe
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>as well as the murders of a Coptic deacon in December and a
>Coptic cabdriver in late 2003.

So this is the third incident.

Ban all Islamic immigration NOW.


8 posted on 01/16/2005 9:58:00 PM PST by Old_Mil
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To: nj26
We need to get control of our borders now. The northeastern states are being overrun with illegal Muslim immigration.

About 75 percent of Americans have been screaming for immigration reform/real border control. President Bush just isn't interested in what the majority of Americans want.

On a side note, Texas has one of the fastest growing Muslim/Mid Eastern populations in the country.

9 posted on 01/16/2005 10:00:57 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (No more illegal alien sympathizers from Texas. America has one too many.)
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Religion of peace my derriere.... The jihad is here and now, and we absolutely have to confront it with everything we have, or else, this type of slaughter will start happening everywhere in the country a Muslm community exists. I say do unto them before they do unto us...


10 posted on 01/16/2005 10:04:16 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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Coulnt be since Texas is so close to the border right??? nah could'nt be(sarcasm)


11 posted on 01/16/2005 10:06:53 PM PST by justkillingtime
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Coulnt be since Texas is so close to the border right??? nah could'nt be(sarcasm)


12 posted on 01/16/2005 10:08:13 PM PST by justkillingtime
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Has this story been picked up by the MSM yet? .....Fox News?

Of course not. This would go against the religion of peace view that the MSM is trying to portray.

The MSM should be considered an accessory to this murder IF this was done by IslamoFascists.

13 posted on 01/16/2005 10:08:57 PM PST by technomage
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To: winner3000
The FBI needs to infiltrate these groups asap. They did it to the KKK and they should do it here.

But the KKK didn't have CAIR and the MSM to defend its 'right' to commit terrorist acts.

14 posted on 01/16/2005 10:08:59 PM PST by peyton randolph (CAIR supports TROP terrorists)
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To: justkillingtime

ooops....sorry for double post


15 posted on 01/16/2005 10:09:06 PM PST by justkillingtime
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To: Old_Mil

I was not aware of these...do you have any links?


16 posted on 01/16/2005 10:09:24 PM PST by milford421
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Has this story been picked up by the MSM yet?

If you find this story anywhere in the MSM it'll be on page 15 of the gardening section.

17 posted on 01/16/2005 10:10:17 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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To: ddtorque

In cold blood.


18 posted on 01/16/2005 10:15:40 PM PST by eternity (From here to...)
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...Friends, relatives and co-worshippers of the devout family spent much of Saturday wondering how the seemingly upstanding Armanious family could fall victim to such a shockingly brutal crime.

Think Islam extremists. Works for me.


19 posted on 01/16/2005 10:18:33 PM PST by taxesareforever (Just can't seem to get enough protection for criminals.)
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To: ddtorque

Time to LOck and loas. It's time to bear down on the Governmet about the borders ans deportation of all illegal aliens and Muslims. Islam and Chritianity has never mixed and never will. It's all in GOD'S hands!


20 posted on 01/16/2005 10:21:06 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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