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Slaying of 4 may be tied to (Islamic) religious extremism (NJ Christian family had throats slit)
Bergen Record ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2005 | TOM TRONCONE

Posted on 01/16/2005 5:22:26 AM PST by dead

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To: sheik yerbouty

I'm suprised Rush is not talking about this today?


641 posted on 01/17/2005 10:58:12 AM PST by angcat
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To: Happy2BMe

Bookmarking


642 posted on 01/17/2005 11:03:15 AM PST by TruthNtegrity (Miss Beazley is such a cute little puppy. Makes me want one of my own.)
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To: ml/nj

"The One Minute Mosque"!


643 posted on 01/17/2005 11:03:50 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: freeperfromnj

This is gonna get ugly. Go Copts.


644 posted on 01/17/2005 11:04:01 AM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: SheLion

Here's new video from Jersey News channel. They community is afraid for their families. Judging from the signs they are holding and the fear expressed they clearly believe Islamists are responsible for this. No matter how the media tries to downplay it.

http://www.news12.com/NJ/topstories/article?id=127913#


645 posted on 01/17/2005 11:05:24 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

You're right. It is going to get ugly. I just saw the Fox News clip.


646 posted on 01/17/2005 11:06:58 AM PST by freeperfromnj
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To: angcat

Give him time..


647 posted on 01/17/2005 11:09:10 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

Funny Freeper name you have! LOL


648 posted on 01/17/2005 11:10:36 AM PST by angcat
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To: TruthNtegrity
JIHAD WATCH - New Jersey: an Islamic murder of Coptic Christians?


649 posted on 01/17/2005 11:10:47 AM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: debg
"Two, four, six, eight, we are martyrs, we can't wait," chanted the group, most of whom wore kaffiyehs -- the cloth headdress closely associated with Palestinian militants."

My Glock 27 has a 15 round magazine.

I can accomodate seven more of you.

650 posted on 01/17/2005 11:12:35 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: angcat

Many thanks! it has caused much offense against the effendis and impotentates! Allahu Fubar!


651 posted on 01/17/2005 11:13:26 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: rlwinston
Here is the e-mail I sent to the NY Post news editor (cshaw@nypost.com):

Please continue to investigate these grisly murders. I have been following it since the story broke and am disconcerted as to the seeming cover-up regarding the motivation for the brutal killings.

Over the weekend it was reported as a possible hate-crime with the motivation for the killings perhaps being caused by the religious beliefs and outspokenness on an on-line message board (paltalk.com) of the murdered father. Today it is being reported that robbery is being considered as the main motive for these brutal slayings.

From all I've seen and read regarding this story, I believe that one must investigate the possiblility of robbery being an afterthought to these heinous crimes.

One must look into the possibility that this family was viciously executed by Islamic terrorists from the on-line community and that the robbery was then carried out as a "coverup" to mask the true reasons behind the killings.

Please note that according to the words of the Qu'ran, the murder of 'infidels' as well as any 'booty' resulting from this is deemed acceptable (and is even commanded):

On MURDER & TORTURE:

Qur’an 2:191 “And kill them wherever you find and catch them. Drive them out from where they have turned you out; for Al-Fitnah (polytheism, disbelief, oppression) is worse than slaughter.”

Qur’an 33:60 “Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbors for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercy—a fierce slaughter—murdered, a horrible murdering.”

Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.”

On BOOTY:

Qur’an 8:1 “They ask you about the benefits of capturing the spoils of war. Tell them: ‘The benefits belong to Allah and to His Messenger.’”

Qur’an 48:19 “He rewarded them with abundant spoils that they will capture. Allah has promised you much booty that you shall take, and He has made this easy for you.”

Qur’an 9:103 “Take alms out of their property in order to cleanse and purify them, and invoke Allah for them; surely this is a relief for them.”

Qur’an 8:1 “They question you about (windfalls taken as) spoils of war. Say: ‘Booty is at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger; they belong to Us and are for Our benefit. So fear Allah, and adjust your way of thinking in this matter. Obey Allah and His Messenger.’”

Qur’an 8:40 “If people are obstinate, and refuse to surrender, know that Allah is your Supporter. And know that one fifth of all the booty you take belongs to Allah, and to the Messenger, and for the near relatives (of the Messenger).”

Qur’an 8:68 “Had it not been for a previous agreement from Allah, a severe penalty would have reached you for the (ransom) that you took as booty.”

Qur’an 8:69 “So enjoy what you took as booty; the spoils are lawful and good.”

Qur’an 4:94 “Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allah’s Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: ‘You are not a believer!’ Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty.”

I urge you to continue to report on this story. It must not be swept under the rug for fear of inciting hatred or distrust between communities. As Americans, we are currently involved in the greatest war and struggle of our lives, the War on Terror. After what was done to us as a Nation on September 11, 2001, we must not hide from the truth about those that seek to do us harm.

If, indeed, these killings were motivated by religious hatred and persecution, it behooves all of us to know the truth and use all legal means at our disposal to fight this barbarism.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

I plan to send this (or a variation of it) to the follwing papers and news outlets: NY Daily News, Newsday, NY Times, NY Sun, FOX News, ABC7 NY, NBC4, CBS2 NY, FOX 5 NY, (WB) NY ch11, NY 1 and as many other news outlets as possible.

If I have anything to do with it, the TRUTH of this WILL be told!!

652 posted on 01/17/2005 11:34:53 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: freeperfromnj

I just watched it. They wanted a piece of that imam.


653 posted on 01/17/2005 12:12:16 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: freeperfromnj
Here's new video from Jersey News channel. They community is afraid for their families. Judging from the signs they are holding and the fear expressed they clearly believe Islamists are responsible for this. No matter how the media tries to downplay it.

And who should know best? The community.

654 posted on 01/17/2005 12:15:28 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: SheLion

Here's an example of the latest AP report that is propigating across the nation: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4089753/detail.html


655 posted on 01/17/2005 12:36:30 PM PST by debg
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To: debg
The regional head of the Coptic church cautioned against a rush to judgment, but Monir Dowoud, president of the American Coptic Association, said Sunday that "Muslim terrorists" were responsible.

The question was ask on Fox News:  how many Coptic's are in that area of NJ?  The answer was:  over 6,000.

"I don't want to jump to conclusions yet. We need to let the police do their investigation. But there is lots of tension right now between Christians and Muslims over this," he said.

656 posted on 01/17/2005 12:48:52 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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To: debg

This is an outrage! God..I truly detest the MSM!


657 posted on 01/17/2005 1:04:18 PM PST by penelopesire
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To: dead
I don't think that, after slicing the throats of the infidels, the muslim scumbags would be averse to picking up any spare spending money lying about the house.

Or the cops took the money and jewels.

658 posted on 01/17/2005 1:13:38 PM PST by JTHomes
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To: dead

bump


659 posted on 01/17/2005 1:19:06 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Nations do not survive by setting examples for others. Nations survive by making examples of others)
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To: JTHomes
Or the cops took the money and jewels.

The news yesterday reported that it didn't appear to BE a burglary because they found jewelry in the house.  Now, the jewels are gone as well as money from the wallets.  What gives.

660 posted on 01/17/2005 1:20:50 PM PST by SheLion (God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
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