[drt1]

In the case of the Chinese Embassy there was at least the plausible excuse that the Embassy had not existed in that location for several million years. I just don't understand how any sub could be expected to travel in a passive sonar situation in waters that are not completely, absolutely safe for such operations. Just my two-cents.

[El Gran Salseron]

Active sonar at 35 knots is absolutely useless as is the passive sonar. Hull noise, engine noise and noise of friction with the sea make them useless.

[Gondring]

I just don't understand how any sub could be expected to travel in a passive sonar situation in waters that are not completely, absolutely safe for such operations.

Especially when going 30 knots--it's not like it was trying to run silent.

[Cvengr]

Not to mention that nasty Communications office in the Chinese Embassay that just happened to always chatter prior and after enemy calls for fire, just happening to be in our errantly mapped location,...damn,..just damn...

[Doohickey]

They were thought to be good, but they turned out not to be. Its part of the risk they took, and that all of us that volunteered took.

I understand your outrage, but there isn't really anything to be done about it. Absolutely, a Notice to Mariners has been sent and charts updated so THIS mountain doesn't get hit again. But where's the next one?

The world is a constantly changing place, but one thing will never change: These Americans will always put themeselves in harm's way because the job they do NEEDS to be done.

[whobedo]

During WW2 submarines could not survive as deep as 500 ft. Also unless you've been there(onboard at sea) its hard to understand how they operate.