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Submarine Crash Shows Navy Had Gaps in Mapping System
NY Times ^ | January 15, 2005 | CHRISTOPHER DREW

Posted on 01/14/2005 8:30:19 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Even though not his fault, I believe that the skipper will become the scapegoat. Normal operandi for the Navy.


61 posted on 01/14/2005 11:22:19 PM PST by taxesareforever (Just can't seem to get enough protection for criminals.)
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To: Gondring; Boot Hill

Very interesting stuff at the link.


62 posted on 01/14/2005 11:22:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; daylate-dollarshort
8 “A variety of satellite data is now showing that many sea charts, including some that still rely on notations from the days when sailors navigated by the stars, are inaccurate.”

Did you catch that idiotic comment by the NYT reporter? Wow, you mean once upon a time, they really navigated by the stars? Why that must have been eons ago. Like maybe 10 or 20 years ago! Where do they keep finding bozo's like this?

--Boot Hill

63 posted on 01/14/2005 11:29:06 PM PST by Boot Hill (How do you verbalize a noun?)
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To: Boot Hill
Where do they keep finding bozo's like this?

ROFL!!!

I don't know, I don't work there....

64 posted on 01/14/2005 11:30:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; King Prout; ..

From time to time, I’ll post or ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

If you don't like military and technology pings, forget it. I apologize. Otherwise, there are some very interesting links and comments.


65 posted on 01/14/2005 11:36:31 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Boot Hill
I've seen several accounts that said the distance was 370 nm, which would be very close to the distance you calculated.

Note the mileage is not the 360-370 miles that this, and other, MSM article have been quoting, but rather 75 miles farther SSE.

66 posted on 01/14/2005 11:36:57 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: quietolong

Cool links, thank you!


67 posted on 01/14/2005 11:38:10 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
You're right, very close.

--Boot Hill

68 posted on 01/14/2005 11:42:30 PM PST by Boot Hill (How do you verbalize a noun?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I don't think it can, radar depends on reflection...

I think certain frequencies penetrate the water well. This is a radar map of the Earth.

The map below has been sectioned into 16 clickable regions. Clicking on a particular region will open a new window showing the zoomed in region in more detail.

© 1997, David T. Sandwell

Clickable Global Topography Map

69 posted on 01/14/2005 11:44:14 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Straight Vermonter
PDF on the problems/possibilities of mapping the ocean floor from space.
70 posted on 01/14/2005 11:50:03 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: Straight Vermonter; Boot Hill
Most interesting.....and we have known the charts were poor.

Will look at that some more tomorrow.,...Nite!

71 posted on 01/14/2005 11:56:26 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: neverdem

See #69 and #70.


72 posted on 01/14/2005 11:58:32 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Very interesting stuff at the link.

Unfortunately, that link doesn't seem to highlight the bathymetric use of LFAS, but I'm having 'puter problems and can't search for a better page.

73 posted on 01/15/2005 12:00:37 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Ready4Freddy
8 “I've seen several accounts that said the distance was 370 nm...”

Hey, wait just a darn minute! 370 nanometers, why that's smaller than the period at the end of this sentence.   J

--Boot Hill

74 posted on 01/15/2005 12:13:50 AM PST by Boot Hill (How do you verbalize a noun?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
See #69 and #70.

Ernest save yourself the keystrokes when I start the thread, unless it's become much more than a few hours old and I haven't made or received any comments in that time frame.

75 posted on 01/15/2005 12:15:02 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: endthematrix
Remember the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade...

That was an accident; the Cliton administration said so.

76 posted on 01/15/2005 12:26:43 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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To: JimRed

That's CLINTON administration JimRed!


77 posted on 01/15/2005 12:27:46 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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To: Boot Hill

Well now, they didn't disclose the actual top speed of the boat, did they???????? ;>)


78 posted on 01/15/2005 12:42:28 AM PST by Ready4Freddy (Veni Vidi Velcro)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That map is quite disorienting. What is underwater? It has no legend. I find maps on the internet to be problematic because of scaling and orientation. If I didn't recognize the coastline between Korea and Vietnam, I'd be lost.


79 posted on 01/15/2005 2:09:35 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


80 posted on 01/15/2005 2:36:45 AM PST by lainde
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