But there are better ways to fight back. Do you really think 11 men entering an area with 30,000 people hostile to their message were going to convert a single one of them by singing and yelling bible verses over a blowhorn? Do you really think those men believed they were going to convert anyone with that method? Unless they are delusional, I think not. They were there to agitate. And knowing the fascist nature of the Philadelphia government, they probably knew they would be arrested and charged. I think they honestly and rightly believe the civil rights of Christians in the US are in jeopardy. And they want to push the issue in the courts hoping to somehow protect and preserve those rights. With the Liberal and activist nature of our present day courts, now is NOT the time. McCarvage and his group are going to help further jeopardize those rights they seek to protect.
I have lived in the city of Philadelphia for most of my life. If you were to traverse the streets of Philadelphia, on any given day, on this very day, you would encounter several people on street corners who are preaching and quoting from the bible. Go to the Fernrock Transportation Center in Philadelphia. There is a preacher who lives across from the station and continually and perpetually has a microphone system set up outside his house (near or beside the street) replete with a soapbox upon which he stands each and every day, many times a day preaching and quoting form the bible. He is particularly mindful about when children and teenagers are letting out of school and he preaches to them daily after they get off the train to catch the bus on their way home. His message is not berating, however, but positive. The kids, among themselves make jokes and mock him, and seem to think he is nuts, but I know they are listening. I believe what he doing is good. And he has every right to do it.
That said, I believe McCarvage and his group has every right to do what they did, whether we support his methods or find them distasteful, whether or not we believe they are effective or ineffective and whether or not he is or isn't the biggest weirdo on the planet. Furthermore, official actions the Philadelphia government took against McCarvage and his gang are fascist, despicable and far worse than anything the "supposed" perpetrators did. At MOST they should have been charged with some misdemeanor, for disobeying police when they were asked to move to the other side of the street.
Additionally, if the situation had been reversed, I can guarantee you NOTHING would have happened to the homosexual group. I was present when ACT UP trespassed upon PRIVATE property, ACTED UP for over an hour, disrupting a Republican function, and nothing happened. Police arrived (after an hour) and asked them to leave. They should have been arrested on the spot.
Thus, the Philadelphia government has an obvious bias which is deeply disturbing.
Lastly, I would like to see McCarvage and his group end this style of protest, because it is a losing strategy.
I would prefer that they had protested outside the event, with a larger group of folks, which included area residents (not people from VA) with protest signs. THAT would have been far more effective and may have inspired other area residents and people from the city of Philadelphia and elsewhere to fight back themselves. It would have planted the more fertile idea that they and all of us have a right to our say in these matters for instance whether the city of Philadelphia or any city should be allowing groups to openly tout perversion on public property with the use of taxpayer money.
Well said.
I know you'll think I'm a nut, but yes I do believe that they could think they would make a difference because the Word of God is powerful and because there were people converted to Christianity in the Bible when street/public preaching happened.
I've been thinking, you shoulda see the steam coming out of my ears!! LOL
I believe that you're trying to say you think there must be a better method to reach homosexuals than evangelizing at a large event. Yes? I don't know what might work best.
If we don't reach a point in time where the Christian population stands up for itself things will surely get worse. I think many of them sat down and breathed a sigh of relief when Pres. Bush was reeelected like everything is all hunky dory(sp?) and it isn't. We have too many judges that spit in the face of the law and don't look back.
I just can't completely agree that now isn't the time for this battle because it couldn't have happened if God had not allowed it.
That's a great story of the man who evangelizes when the kids get out of school. I met a couple who goes into the housing projects here and play music and minister to the kids, sometimes with bullets flying past and cops chasing bad guys. When God gives you a mission you just have to trust Him with it. I admire their dedication very much!
My hubby is from Philly, Upper Darby. He's really upset about how the city is going down the tubes.
I think we need a call to action thread, do a major letter writing and phone calling campaign to show that America won't stand for people being arrested for preaching in public, whatever the event.