Constitutional Means to Fight Smoking Bans

Smokers United ^ | January 11,2005 | Robert Hayes Halfpenny

[exnavychick]

Thanks for the ping. Here we go again...let's hope this one stays civil. I brought something along, though, just in case.

[Eurotwit]

Ban cars!

[Eurotwit]

Freedom of the individual from the Tyranny of the State.

[SheLion]

If a smoker wants to smoke, my answer to him is, "Certainly,BUT SMOKE THE DAMN WEED OUTSIDE. I DON'T NEED CANCER FROM YOUR BUTT."

Listen. You both are new to Free Republic. There are a lot of decent people who choose to smoke in Free Republic and we don't take kindly to newbies who just want to bash us.

We ARE all supposed to be Conservative after all!

[SheLion]

You are another newbie. Read my post #25.

[mugs99]

You don't need cancer from his butt?
Second hand smoke has less credibility than suv caused global warming.

Incidentally, I do not smoke. I just believe gullible people like you enable those who continually attack our freedoms.

[SheLion]

Thanks for the ping. Here we go again...let's hope this one stays civil. I brought something along, though, just in case.

I don't know where these newbies get off, but they are going to learn that this is still a Conservative Thread. I'm sick and tired of them choosing just which side of the fence they sit when it comes to smoking.

We support all of us. Not just those who do not smoke.

[hushpad]

No political point at all. I just get so frustrated as private business owners are forced to change what goes on in their businesses due to political correctnes BS<<

I think you've got something when it comes to property owners. Most restaurants now have non-smoking signs posted at the entrances, so how come if the restaurant ALLOWS smoking, they cant just place a sign outside saying so?

Smokers would not be FORCED to inhale nasty old cigarette fumes and smokers would not be FORCED outside and denied service simply because they are partaking in a LEGAL activity.

BTW, I believe that second-hand smoke stuff causing others cancer when casually smelled in a restaurant environment has not been scientifically proven any more than global warming has.

[hushpad]

BTW, I believe that second-hand smoke stuff causing others cancer when casually smelled in a restaurant environment has not been scientifically proven any more than global warming has.

LOL! I know I posted second, but bet I thought of it first!!

[markman46]

sure in your own home you can do that, but in someone else's private property you can't tell someone else they can't smoke

[newgeezer]

Freedom of the individual from the Tyranny of the State.

As long as you have the permission of the property owner(s), I'm behind you 100% but, your point will be lost on nearly everyone.

If "Tyranny of the State" is really your thing, you might think about burning a flag instead. :-)

[Eastbound]

" . . . alothough I agree the constitution does not allow for smoking . . "

Well, it's not an enumerated right, but then neither does it allow for a non-smoking ban. So where it is not specific, it is the people's right of choice, there being no compelling state interest. In the case of second-hand smoke, there is no compelling state interest, as the fraudulent study that nic-nazis use to hammer town councils, et al, was trash-canned by the SCOTUS years ago as being phony.

No smoking bans are clearly lacking in legitimacy and are an an attack on the very basis of our Republic -- the right to pursue happiness and manage our own private property, unhindered by fascist-leaning, despotic politicians and those who buy them off and put them in office.

[markman46]

sure in your own home you can do that, but in someone else's private property you can't tell someone else they can't smoke

[exnavychick]

That point seems to be lost on a lot of folks these days. Newbies (like myself) are especially bad at it, though.

Well, we'll set them straight, soon enough. :)

[exnavychick]

Wow! Well said! Bravo!

[Eurotwit]

I turn into quite the anarchist after having a drink :-)

[SheLion]

Well, we'll set them straight, soon enough. :)

You are new? Gosh, seems like we have been talking for a long time! You fit right in!! :)

Well, if they can't stand up for our own side, who WILL they stand up for? Afterall, we smoke AND we vote!

[gidget7]

There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that second hand smoke causes any risk. Flawed studies were exposed long ago, publicity was not allowed however.

I gag from another persons perfume being too strong, but I can't outlaw their use of it.