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Constitutional Means to Fight Smoking Bans
Smokers United ^
| January 11,2005
| Robert Hayes Halfpenny
Posted on 01/13/2005 11:53:07 AM PST by bob3443
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To: SheLion
Thanks for the ping. Here we go again...let's hope this one stays civil. I brought something along, though, just in case.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:25:36 PM PST
by
exnavychick
(There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
Comment #22 Removed by Moderator
To: LoneSome Journey
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:27:54 PM PST
by
Eurotwit
To: newgeezer
Freedom of the individual from the Tyranny of the State.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:28:52 PM PST
by
Eurotwit
To: zoosha; LoneSome Journey
If a smoker wants to smoke, my answer to him is, "Certainly,BUT SMOKE THE DAMN WEED OUTSIDE. I DON'T NEED CANCER FROM YOUR BUTT." Listen. You both are new to Free Republic. There are a lot of decent people who choose to smoke in Free Republic and we don't take kindly to newbies who just want to bash us.
We ARE all supposed to be Conservative after all!
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:31:29 PM PST
by
SheLion
(God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
To: mdhunter
You are another newbie. Read my post #25.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:32:12 PM PST
by
SheLion
(God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
To: zoosha
You don't need cancer from his butt?
Second hand smoke has less credibility than suv caused global warming.
Incidentally, I do not smoke. I just believe gullible people like you enable those who continually attack our freedoms.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:32:48 PM PST
by
mugs99
(Restore the Constitution)
To: exnavychick
Thanks for the ping. Here we go again...let's hope this one stays civil. I brought something along, though, just in case. I don't know where these newbies get off, but they are going to learn that this is still a Conservative Thread. I'm sick and tired of them choosing just which side of the fence they sit when it comes to smoking.
We support all of us. Not just those who do not smoke.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:33:35 PM PST
by
SheLion
(God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
To: trubluolyguy
No political point at all. I just get so frustrated as private business owners are forced to change what goes on in their businesses due to political correctnes BS<<
I think you've got something when it comes to property owners. Most restaurants now have non-smoking signs posted at the entrances, so how come if the restaurant ALLOWS smoking, they cant just place a sign outside saying so?
Smokers would not be FORCED to inhale nasty old cigarette fumes and smokers would not be FORCED outside and denied service simply because they are partaking in a LEGAL activity.
BTW, I believe that second-hand smoke stuff causing others cancer when casually smelled in a restaurant environment has not been scientifically proven any more than global warming has.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:34:01 PM PST
by
hushpad
(Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
To: mugs99
BTW, I believe that second-hand smoke stuff causing others cancer when casually smelled in a restaurant environment has not been scientifically proven any more than global warming has.
LOL! I know I posted second, but bet I thought of it first!!
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:36:04 PM PST
by
hushpad
(Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
To: zoosha
sure in your own home you can do that, but in someone else's private property you can't tell someone else they can't smoke
To: Eurotwit
Freedom of the individual from the Tyranny of the State. As long as you have the permission of the property owner(s), I'm behind you 100% but, your point will be lost on nearly everyone.
If "Tyranny of the State" is really your thing, you might think about burning a flag instead. :-)
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:36:52 PM PST
by
newgeezer
(Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
To: trubluolyguy
" . . . alothough I agree the constitution does not allow for smoking . . " Well, it's not an enumerated right, but then neither does it allow for a non-smoking ban. So where it is not specific, it is the people's right of choice, there being no compelling state interest. In the case of second-hand smoke, there is no compelling state interest, as the fraudulent study that nic-nazis use to hammer town councils, et al, was trash-canned by the SCOTUS years ago as being phony.
No smoking bans are clearly lacking in legitimacy and are an an attack on the very basis of our Republic -- the right to pursue happiness and manage our own private property, unhindered by fascist-leaning, despotic politicians and those who buy them off and put them in office.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:38:08 PM PST
by
Eastbound
("The United States of America is not a friggin' democracy." -- The Founders)
To: zoosha
sure in your own home you can do that, but in someone else's private property you can't tell someone else they can't smoke
Comment #35 Removed by Moderator
To: SheLion
That point seems to be lost on a lot of folks these days. Newbies (like myself) are especially bad at it, though.
Well, we'll set them straight, soon enough. :)
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:45:31 PM PST
by
exnavychick
(There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
To: Eastbound
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:48:11 PM PST
by
exnavychick
(There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
To: newgeezer
I turn into quite the anarchist after having a drink :-)
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:51:16 PM PST
by
Eurotwit
To: exnavychick
Well, we'll set them straight, soon enough. :) You are new? Gosh, seems like we have been talking for a long time! You fit right in!! :)![](http://www.hostfile.com/home/darlene/hug.gif)
Well, if they can't stand up for our own side, who WILL they stand up for? Afterall, we smoke AND we vote!
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:57:35 PM PST
by
SheLion
(God bless our military members and keep them safe.)
To: zoosha
There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that second hand smoke causes any risk. Flawed studies were exposed long ago, publicity was not allowed however.
I gag from another persons perfume being too strong, but I can't outlaw their use of it.
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posted on
01/13/2005 12:59:56 PM PST
by
gidget7
(God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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