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Constitutional Means to Fight Smoking Bans
Smokers United ^ | January 11,2005 | Robert Hayes Halfpenny

Posted on 01/13/2005 11:53:07 AM PST by bob3443

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To: Gabz

Gabz, following that line of reasoning, public nudity laws are tantamount to precluding peacable assemblage in that those who may choose to go naked have to seperate themselves from the assembly.


141 posted on 01/13/2005 2:31:43 PM PST by Melas
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To: Modernman

It is inevitable. The world moves, over time to the workers paradise of pure communism. Socializm is but a necessary phase. Find ways to pit the americans against each other. Disrupt their society. Scoff at their laws but hold them accountable. Use their own freedoms against them. Use their agreeable natures to get them to agree to the most egregious behaviors like abortion, drug addiction, and homosexuality. Soon the revolution will be at hand.


142 posted on 01/13/2005 2:33:08 PM PST by johnb838 (Death to socializm.)
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To: exnavychick
Ewwwwwwe, you are Baaaaaaaad!!!!! Do you let them eat cakes and candy and drink soda too?

And yes, FAT as in people is next. It's already begun!

143 posted on 01/13/2005 2:33:40 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (I support Terri's supporters!!!!)
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To: gidget7

What about homosexual smokers? I think there are a lot of those.


144 posted on 01/13/2005 2:34:19 PM PST by johnb838 (Death to socializm.)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

It is only within the last decade or so that the smoker even considered the fact that someone might not like his smoke. Then after some started speaking up many smokers made a point of lighting up to annoy people or because they were bound and determined to do whateverthehell they wanted no matter what. On buses I would have to tell them to put them out and made it clear that they would be put out voluntarily or involuntarily.

I have been around smokers all my life and lost my dad and father-in-law prematurely to smoking. Fortunately I never developed the habit nor have my boys. There is nothing positive about this disgusting habit and to find some lauding it and condemning anything negative said about it is just sad. Particularly on a site which values truth and information.


145 posted on 01/13/2005 2:35:25 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: SheLion

Heh heh...like him enough for both of us, eh?

Bad girl. ROFL!!!


146 posted on 01/13/2005 2:38:13 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
I've been known to, on occasion...shhhhh!! LOL

It's a good thing they like to brush their teeth! At least I'm semi-safe from the food-nazi's...I'm skinny, so they'll automatically assume I don't eat, anyway. ROFL!
147 posted on 01/13/2005 2:40:38 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Particularly on a site which values truth and information.

Here's a bit of truth for you.

Some people enjoy smoking.

You should be grateful, it gives you the opportunity to make condescending little lectures and call people disgusting.

Such a frisson of self-righteousness you must get.

148 posted on 01/13/2005 2:41:16 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: appalachian_dweller

My parents did bought some for me, too, once they made me quit my job to concentrate on schoolwork. It took a long time for my stepdad to forgive me after I am "came out", though...he was really disappointed.


149 posted on 01/13/2005 2:42:48 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: exnavychick

God how things have changed-When I got pregnant with my first almost 44 years ago the doctor advised me NOT to quit. Said to wait because of all the changes going on in my body.

He smoked at the office,his nurse smoked,and more than 1/2 of the pregnant women smoked.

We also drank tons of coffee----no decaf.

Where was the harm?


150 posted on 01/13/2005 2:43:46 PM PST by Mears
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To: SheLion

Aaaaah,She,it's not about health---it's never been about health.

They don't like the smell----period!


151 posted on 01/13/2005 2:45:59 PM PST by Mears
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To: Madame Dufarge

I did not call smokers disgusting. I called smoking disgusting. Just because I might do something disgusting does not make me disgusting.

Nor have I given any lectures on the subject since it is not worth my time to speak to deaf ears. I do not care if you smoke as long as I don't have to smell it.


152 posted on 01/13/2005 2:47:32 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Mears

That's what my regular ob said. The one I have now just asked me if I knew what the risks were, and I said "yes". Given he had my medical history (complete with my children's birth weights and date of birth-compared to due date) he knew better than to push it, I guess.


153 posted on 01/13/2005 2:49:08 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: Mears

I guess it doesn't hurt that I'm not a pack-a-day smoker, either.


154 posted on 01/13/2005 2:50:22 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"It is only within the last decade or so that the smoker even considered the fact that someone might not like his smoke."

THAT'S a crock and you know it. Even in old movies, I can't count the times characters who smoked, asked other's when they were out in public,"Do you mind if I smoke?" I can recall all kinds of smoking adults in my life doing the same.

An it was 18 years ago when I was OUTSIDE having a cigarette and someone (who was standing no where near me, and was not the recipient of the traveling smoke from my cigarette which was blowing in the opposite direction) approached me and asked me to put it out.

NAH!!! This unreasonable anti-smoking nonsense was brewing for a long time before then and actually began when I was growing up.

155 posted on 01/13/2005 2:50:32 PM PST by TOUGH STOUGH (I support Terri's supporters!!!!)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

justshutupandtakeit


156 posted on 01/13/2005 2:52:24 PM PST by Eurotwit
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To: justshutupandtakeit; SheLion

So it's the smell----not health huh?

You just proved my point.Thanks!


157 posted on 01/13/2005 2:53:13 PM PST by Mears
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To: Eurotwit

LOL!


158 posted on 01/13/2005 2:54:14 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: exnavychick
My folks were not worried about my cigarette smoking. What they were worried about was the alcohol, refer, LSD, PCP, and cocaine.

Yes I was a really screwed up kid. It's amazing I'm still alive and can think straight. Saw a lot of really bad stuff. After watching 6 people die in less than 3 months I decided to quit doing drugs. Only thing I do now is smoke tobacco and drink.

All these folks who think that smoking is horrible should remember there are far worse things people do.
159 posted on 01/13/2005 2:57:00 PM PST by appalachian_dweller (Threat Level: Elevated - Basic list of survival gear @ my FR Homepage)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Disgusting doesn't begin to describe it.....thanks for sharing it though. I have much bigger things to protect my kids from. And that is part of what ticks me off about this whole issue. It is not (in the grand scheme of things) all that important.


160 posted on 01/13/2005 2:59:21 PM PST by Annie03
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