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Culture of Death (ZOT!!! His appeals exhausted, and clemency denied, troll goes to the chair.)
The New York Review of Books ^ | 1/13/05 | Sister Helen Prejean

Posted on 01/13/2005 8:55:45 AM PST by Pinko

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To: zephyrduck; JoJo Gunn
When I say that I'm pro-life, I want to say that I'm for all life.

Why do you feel the need to reconcile your whole life to fit a PR slogan?

I swear, people were a lot more honest before Roe v. Wade. Nobody had a problem with the terms "pro-abortion" and "anti-abortion". I don't think abortion on demand should be legal. I think it's murder. Therefore I am anti-abortion. People that believe abortion on demand should remain legal are pro-abortion no matter what nice stories they tell themselves.

I won't let the other side dictate what I MUST believe in order to hold the beliefs that I do. They live with far greater inconsistencies and contradictions than I do, so they're in no position to impose anything on me.

Saying you're "for all life" sounds like a PETA billboard. I suppose you're antiwar, too.

Bottom line, the death penalty is the only appropriate punishment for certain crimes. I don't have a problem with it. I do have a problem with elevating murderers to victim status, hero status, and even martyr status, as this idiot nun does in furtherance of her radical goals.

241 posted on 01/13/2005 1:32:57 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: zephyrduck
(There, did that last sentence help win me some credibility around here? (grin))

Trying too hard?

That sounds like a pretty strong condemnation of captial punishment to me. But then again, I'm just a lowly Catholic who doesn't have the bible memorized chapter and verse.

Self deprecation or backhanded slap disguised as such?

(Bible quote is from the King James Version as to cause a mimimum of consternation from the more evangelical members on this board.

What was the need for this statement?

I'll make the snippy responses for all of you, so that you don't have to: "Oh, he's a meteorologist, he's used to being wrong!" "He said he was a student in Wisconsin. Stupid hippy Madison liberals." Uh..that's all I've got. I know the rest of you can do better.

From your very first post here. You expecting friction already? Why?

Do I think you are a troll? No. But I've been wrong before. Like I said, time will tell.

242 posted on 01/13/2005 1:37:38 PM PST by OSHA (Moosenami - Waves of crazed moose thought to be caused by earthquakes deep under the fjords.)
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To: OSHA
But then again, I'm just a lowly Catholic who doesn't have the bible memorized chapter and verse.

Genuine Catholic, or parody by a non-Catholic trying to pass?

243 posted on 01/13/2005 1:40:23 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Genuine Catholic, or parody by a non-Catholic trying to pass?

I bet these guys could get to the truth!


244 posted on 01/13/2005 1:53:04 PM PST by OSHA (Moosenami - Waves of crazed moose thought to be caused by earthquakes deep under the fjords.)
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To: zephyrduck; hellinahandcart

Well, at least you're honest about it.

I'm not 100 percent against abortion, and only a fool would be. For example, I can't speak for the ones due to medical dangers.

I don't however, like the idea that a woman who didn't have the common sense to keep her knees together on a lonely Saturday night should have the total convenience of skipping down to the local Abortions R Us and having her innards vacuumed out angst free.

There are too many philosophical differences between abortion and murderers like Tucker to make a sweeping comparison.


245 posted on 01/13/2005 2:01:29 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Pinko

Be gone troll.


246 posted on 01/13/2005 2:17:20 PM PST by stockpirate (Check out my homepage and learn about sKerry and his Socialist friends.)
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To: JoJo Gunn

It is a very rare abortion that has anything to do with the life of the mother.

The entire purpose of the late term abortions is to kill the child, not to releive the mother of the risk to herself.

Preterm infants starting at about 22 weeks have an increasing viability with every week. Pretty much every pregnancy over 28 weeks has an excellent chance of a normal life.

You can end the pregnancy and preserve the life of both the mother and the infant.


247 posted on 01/13/2005 2:24:23 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (pun my typo if you dare.)
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To: TASMANIANRED
It is a very rare abortion that has anything to do with the life of the mother.

That might be true. I'm not addressing late term abortions either. Well, maybe I don't know what to address, since each case has to be taken on it's merits, and I'm no doctor.

All I can truly speak for is the insanity of the Leftists, the so-called Enlightened, who value Life so little as to make abortions as handy as 7-11's, where your underage daughter has the right to go and bleed to death without your permission.

248 posted on 01/13/2005 2:34:39 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: JoJo Gunn

As a nurse working in a hospital that didn't do abortions, I dealt more than once with the aftermath of legal ones.

Perforated uterus, hemorrhage, sepsis.

Considering the vast number of abortions these days, I'd be willing to bet a months pay that the number of deaths from legal abortions is equal the to value the proabortionists made up about back alley abortion deaths.


249 posted on 01/13/2005 2:42:49 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (pun my typo if you dare.)
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To: Pinko

250 posted on 01/13/2005 3:07:04 PM PST by dansangel
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To: MeekOneGOP

ping me!


251 posted on 01/13/2005 3:46:46 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: Pinko

If you want to really respect INNOCENT LIFE, punish those who kill others with the maximum punishment one can muster.

Prejean doesnt care about innocent life, only the lives of worthless, evil individuals who have made Hell for others, with their killing, raping, etc.

Being merciful to the cruel is being cruel to the innocent.


Your comments are ignorant BS.


252 posted on 01/13/2005 3:55:41 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Pinko

"So can somebody please first read this article then give me an honest and informed opinion on it."

An honest, fair and unbiased reaction to that emotional screed is that it is a pile of BS. (e.g., she lies about these incidents regarding Bush. tsk, tsk.)

Would you rather live in a state where there was NO punishment for murder or a state where EVERY MURDERER WAS PUNISHED WITH DEATH?

Answer honestly and then decide if this loony nun is on the level.


253 posted on 01/13/2005 3:59:41 PM PST by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: Crazieman

Amen!


254 posted on 01/13/2005 4:02:30 PM PST by missanne (Go to work, write letters to the editor!)
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To: Pinko
God forgives the murderer if he repents of his killing an innocent...the state condemns the act and enforces the punishment. Should God forgive, that murderer has the chance at eternal life. At least, the murderer has the choice to prepare to meet his Maker. Unfortunately, the murdered victim may not have had the opportunity to do the same.
255 posted on 01/13/2005 4:07:38 PM PST by missanne (Go to work, write letters to the editor!)
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To: Arrowhead1952
Sure is one keck of a long-winded poster [possible troll].

Don't know about troll, not enough posts. But when it comes to there being Sheep and Sheepdogs more likely a sheep. Most of us here belong in the Sheepdog category. That is we will give our life to protect the sheep. The word wussy comes to mind to keep the conversation clean. Just don't see this guy watching my back, if ya know what I mean. LOL

256 posted on 01/13/2005 4:42:04 PM PST by Allosaurs_r_us (Idaho Carnivores for Conservatism)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

Mind if I steal your Fox News Alert? I was looking for something like that yesterday.....


257 posted on 01/13/2005 5:10:55 PM PST by b4its2late (You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
That is the problem with these freaks. They get caught in this BS Utopian view of democracy they were force fed in school. There is no debate. You vote for the guy who believes in the things you believe. This is a republic,it is that simple. There is no public debate. The media tells us the lefts side of the argument and we either vote to accept it or reject it.
258 posted on 01/13/2005 5:24:38 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: b4its2late

"Mind if I steal your Fox News Alert? I was looking for something like that yesterday....."

Sure...I found that thing here on another thread earlier. ;-) Thought it was funny.


259 posted on 01/13/2005 5:41:42 PM PST by PilloryHillary
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To: Allosaurs_r_us
Thank you. I've added you. :^)

260 posted on 01/13/2005 5:46:16 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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