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Soros Dumps More Money on the Democrats
NewsMax.com ^ | 1/13/05 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 01/13/2005 12:06:22 AM PST by kattracks

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To: risk
Why isn't this thread getting more attention?

Thank the good folks at the National...Football...League.

21 posted on 01/16/2005 4:01:32 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: kattracks; All
"chairman of an Ohio insurance company."

That Ohio Insurance company is Progressive Insurance. If you have them, drop them!

22 posted on 01/16/2005 4:04:41 PM PST by KoRn
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To: kattracks

We that are without money will beat Mr. Soros because we are America. God Bless America and all who have and will defend Her.


23 posted on 01/16/2005 4:12:43 PM PST by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: risk

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Why, lets give this Thread some more attention then.

SOROS =

Friend of HILLARY

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24 posted on 01/16/2005 4:17:43 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Route101
It's not against the law for anyone to throw money to the wind......

I agree with you. Soros and his ilk, as much as we may disagree with their political positions, are just putting their money where their mouths are. It remains my belief that no amount of money will change a losing message. If people don't agree with what these bums are pushing, they will just be wasting their time and money.

Besides, I think we can do okay raising funds on our own. Maybe a couple of million conservatives giving a hundred bucks each, what would that raise? A few hundred million? If we work together, we will do okay on the financing side.

25 posted on 01/16/2005 4:22:15 PM PST by chimera
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To: risk

Because these republicans think they can sit back and bask in the glorious sunshine of a win. Nobody moves until the RNC says to stand up and tell them what direction to face.

Wearing the RNC issued blinders saves many party patriots from the oncoming grey hair that open eyed folks can't avoid at a much younger age.


26 posted on 01/16/2005 5:27:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch; Fedora; Atlantic Friend; Squantos; Boot Hill; river rat; neverdem; Joe Brower; ...
What would be very sad is if RNC wonks feel that we have come so close to multicultural, internationalist, moral equivocating demise on democratic terms that the best they can do is inch our way back to the right with sneaky steps.

Something tells me that isn't the whole story. There are people at the top of the party, roots firmly planted in Wall Street, who really believe the immigration matras, and the mystical incantations of internationalism. Just how fundamentally different from that is a George Soros? I think there's plenty of difference, but I'd like to see our leaders lead: speak, write, hold town halls, anything they can to get out the word: feedom for Americans will not be defined in terms of anarchy, and America will not lead the world into international anarchy by pandering to intolerant and backward cultures.

How many fence sitters can we afford to lose over undemocratic paragraphs in the Patriot Acts while Soros and his like minded wealth draw Americans closer and closer to anarchy? Soros's twisted and revisionist ideas of "open society" and "total freedom" do have their roots in the same philosophies that spawned the blood-soaked French Revolution.

Soros has only a minescule relatinship to Karl Popper's original concept of an open society. How Karl Popper, one of the greatest critics of totalitarianism, could be now used in the defense of statism and serfdom (as Hayek put it), is a very tragic development. --Kelley L. Ross

27 posted on 01/16/2005 6:04:01 PM PST by risk
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To: risk

>>There are people at the top of the party, roots firmly planted in Wall Street, who really believe the immigration matras, and the mystical incantations of internationalism. Just how fundamentally different from that is a George Soros?<<

Being an elitist means that you don't have to submit to rubbing elbows with the common folks.

>>I'd like to see our leaders lead: speak, write, hold town halls, anything they can to get out the word: <<

In case you haven't noticed, "leadership" has a new definition....Follow the Party line, or else!

Have you ever read Dick Lamms speach on "America's Demise ?"

)))"We all know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration-overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor named Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal - was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual.

"The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy.' Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

"We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'" Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."
"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other."

"A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Every discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.'

American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength."

Governor Lamm, walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream."(((


28 posted on 01/16/2005 6:24:25 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: TexKat; Gucho; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MEG33; gatorbait; PhilDragoo; potlatch; struwwelpeter; ...

Thank you news information ping


29 posted on 01/16/2005 6:25:31 PM PST by anonymoussierra (Quo Vadis Domine? Quo Vadis? Thank you)
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To: kattracks

He is starting resemble a drunk gambler. Trying to cover his losses by throwing more money on losing hands.


30 posted on 01/16/2005 6:26:37 PM PST by chudogg (www.chudogg.blogspot.com)
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WOW!


31 posted on 01/16/2005 6:28:50 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: anonymoussierra; B4Ranch

WOW!


32 posted on 01/16/2005 6:28:56 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: B4Ranch; Squantos; archy; Travis McGee
Brilliant, bravo, bravo! I'd like to summarize and extend the points:
  1. Encourage bilingualism. Encourage immigrants to keep their old language.
  2. Praise and support multi-culturalism. All cultures are equal, right?
  3. Fail to educate both the indigent lower-class and the immigrants. It's OK to do this by weighing down the education process with TVs in the hallways, Internet-filtered computers at every desk, calculators, gender-agnostic sex education (with an emphasis on sex), and feminist and class based bashing of the nation's founding fathers.
  4. Use massive corporate charity to foster ethnic and gender victimology, and welcome racial and cultural balkanization.
  5. Tolerate dual citizenship and dual loyalties, such as to "Palestine," or a religious doctrine that goes in opposition to our Constitution.
  6. Use the standards of Political Correctness (both conservative and liberal) to make discussion of these topics off limits.
  7. Make immigration laws impossible to enforce.
  8. I'll add my final ones: deprive citizens of their right to self defense,
  9. And reward corporations which offshore their labor costs.
  10. Support public broadcasting and state education to reinforce beliefs in all of the above.
  11. Simultaneously suppress America's own original ethnicities by eradicating Christmas and other innocuous traditions, all the while firing up TV evangelists to distract the people from immigration with persecution complexes.
If it sounds conspiratorial, I mean nothing of the sort. Human greed, stupidity, and having too many enemies to keep track of them all could put us in the above situation.

It's time we realize this time it's for keeps. We have to act, even if the cost of acting is high. If we keep our time-honored principles intact, we should be able to reverse this trend without losing our humanity.

33 posted on 01/16/2005 6:51:46 PM PST by risk
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To: risk
>>It's time we realize this time it's for keeps. We have to act, even if the cost of acting is high. If we keep our time-honored principles intact, we should be able to reverse this trend without losing our humanity.<<

That is one might big if

>>we should be able to reverse this trend without losing our humanity.<<

This is the part that civilian America finds most desirable. The part they don't realize is that we are at war!

Why is it that only soldiers know that their survival is the key to you having the option of you keeping your humanity because they must donate theirs to winning each battle. Killing the enemy was not something I ever considered to be a humane act. Your prayers that I succeeded was the only humane thing I felt in my day.

Until America realizes we are at war at home, not only in Iraq, will we ever stand a chance of winning the fight to keep our Republic.

My self, I don't give a damn about Iraq, just our men there. The war at home is the more important one to me.

34 posted on 01/16/2005 8:39:34 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch; archy
The part they don't realize is that we are at war!

In debating the enemy on this topic, which I do, I hear cries of "free speech," and "civil liberty!" If a nuke goes off in Manhattan, how much civil liberty will be afforded by the survivors to the ones who justified the immigration, and refusal to require assimilation of the kinds of people who'd do such a thing? And what will become of the Hollywoodian cheerleaders for our surrender?

Free speech is a game to these people, a cost-free game without any real consequences. I think Clint Eastwood spoke for all of us when he said what he thought about Michael Moore on national television last week. People were laughing, but he was serious. America fell for the free speech movement in the 1960s, and then carried it too far. I can't defend people who travel to foreign countries and say that we deserved to be attacked on 9/11 as Noam Chomsky did.

Neil Young has a new take on his "Keep on Rockin' in the Free World" song out on video. It includes splices of F911 over his song, mixed in with protest footage. It practically cries out to have a violent revolt against the Bush administration.

Yet we're expected to repeat the 1960s as if we hadn't learned anything from it. Both sides learned much, and it only serves to embitter us.

Refusing to admit that we're at war is verging on criminal behavior; it's really just a ploy, and an ingenius one at that. It is only America's core morals that are keeping patriots from expressing their rage in more concrete terms.

Why is it that only soldiers know that their survival is the key to you having the option of you keeping your humanity because they must donate theirs to winning each battle.

A very good point. As archy's tagline says, the darkness will come. Yes, it could. All that stands between it and us is our troops, and of course our rule of law here. The media and the government have begun slipping away from that bastion of civil order. What is next?

At one point we decided that the best way to maintain a semblance of civility was to ask the impossible of our troops. For today's week-kneed politicians, abusing our troops is preferable to sitting at the UN and saying "we didn't have any standards."

Until America realizes we are at war at home, not only in Iraq, will we ever stand a chance of winning the fight to keep our Republic.

As usual, I'm thinking about what you said. I don't think this generation is going to let the press or the politicians turn another war, this one much closer to home, into a Vietnam. I think we're a lot more determined than the silent majority was during your time at the front.

Free speech, yes. We ourselves aren't going to be silenced by political correctness.

35 posted on 01/16/2005 9:25:24 PM PST by risk
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To: risk

>>be silenced by political correctness.<<



Political correctness is not of the slightest concern to me.


36 posted on 01/16/2005 9:53:27 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: B4Ranch

I think PC has become so well ingrained in my generation and younger that we can't tell when we're thinking and when we're letting it think for us.


37 posted on 01/16/2005 10:00:15 PM PST by risk
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To: risk

PC is a chain on the brain.


38 posted on 01/16/2005 10:55:18 PM PST by B4Ranch (Don't remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; risk

We can and will defeat Soros, his toadies and their evil plans!


39 posted on 01/17/2005 8:31:40 AM PST by blackie
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