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on their web site is also a link to the left wing "Childrens Defense Fund".

Just what the 5th highest taxed state needs...

1 posted on 01/12/2005 2:17:13 PM PST by Rakkasan1
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Where was the last 3M plant built ?


2 posted on 01/12/2005 2:18:25 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (If I've told you once, I've told you a thousand times: No cliches!)
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More states should pass voter referendums outlawing their state income taxes.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 2:20:24 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Gee, why don't they just take more donations from their flocks and donate it to the state? Oh wait, they probably have really large legal fees right now.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 2:21:01 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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Republicans control the Governor's mansion and the House, so there is little chance of a tax increase happening.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 2:21:53 PM PST by Patti_ORiley
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Easy for bishops to say, as they don't pay taxes. The Church neither. I say for them to get their own house in order first. Here in Spokane they are bankrupt.


6 posted on 01/12/2005 2:22:29 PM PST by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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I'm all for removing the tax exempt status of the Catholic Church if they're going to do this.

And good luck getting another dime out of me.


7 posted on 01/12/2005 2:23:15 PM PST by gore_sux (and so does Xlinton)
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Well, I think these Catholic prelates need to ask the state to tax Catholic church properties so they can do their fair share for the poor. Just leave the present tax payers alone, please.
They are "contributing" more than enough.


8 posted on 01/12/2005 2:24:50 PM PST by kittymyrib
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Who let these leftie Bishops out of their cage?


9 posted on 01/12/2005 2:24:52 PM PST by marty60
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Citing concerns about the poor and vulnerable in Minnesota in light of a state budget deficit, Minnesota’s Catholic Bishops are calling for an increase in state income taxes.

The Catholic Church used to help "the poor and vulnerable," but have been spending more of the parishoners money on molestation victims lately.....

10 posted on 01/12/2005 2:25:39 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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Reason #452 why my Bishop doesn't get any money from me. I don't recall him saying squat about abortion during the election, but now when we don't need him, here he is.

patent


12 posted on 01/12/2005 2:29:18 PM PST by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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Well Padre, maybe you should sell off those empty inner city parishes and donate the money to the poor. Oh, I forgot, you need to pay off the victims of the Lavendar Brotherhood.


15 posted on 01/12/2005 2:31:28 PM PST by Clemenza (President: Liger Breeders of the Pacific Northwest)
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Hmmph. Catholic should be in quotes. The people paying those higher taxes won't be the rich Kerry types. Nor will it be the poor on the dole. It will be the middle class and the working poor. I guess Minnesota wants to emulate Massachusetts as the great commie bastion that it is. Barf. And, yes, I'm sure there will be questions about the tax status of the church and priests, but that will only hurt the work of the good priests and churches who haven't gone all leftie.


16 posted on 01/12/2005 2:34:52 PM PST by fortunecookie (My grandparents didn't flee communism so that I could live in Kerry's Kommune - and I won't have to.)
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call me cynical, but I've always thought liberal bishops like this want the govt to take care of everything so the Church doesn't have to do its traditional duty of helping the poor anymore. Laziness and greed, pure and simple.

I'm sure the liberals are applauding this, but if these bishops were saying the govt needs to crack down on abortion, you'd hear nothing but hysterical cries of "separation of church and state!"


17 posted on 01/12/2005 2:37:30 PM PST by sassbox
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“Because human needs require it and other resources are not available to meet these needs, we believe that it is right and proper to raise income taxes justly and equitably.”

Human "needs" are infinite. Social resources are not. Using the state to redistribute wealth and income is a dangerous weapon to wield. It has two edges and may come back to injure the user when in other hands. Why doesn't the Catholic hierarchy call on a massive Church-led effort to use private philanthropy to meet these perceived "needs"? Why do they rely on the coercive power of the state?

18 posted on 01/12/2005 2:38:03 PM PST by Faraday
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haha...these priests dont even pay income taxes...what a jerk.

dont they know they are biting the hand that feeds them...do they think that if people give more money to the gov that they will continue to fund the church?

what an economic idiot.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 2:41:44 PM PST by wallcrawlr (www.bionicear.com)
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I have a radical idea: Why don't they police their screwed-up mess of an AmChurch, call for a return to Catholic faith, purge the Church of sodomite predators and mind their proper business instead of acting like neo-commies?


22 posted on 01/12/2005 2:47:15 PM PST by broadsword (It was far beyond anything seen here before!)
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No need for Catholic bashing on this thread. These bishops are not really speaking for the Church, but only for their mixed-up selves.

There was a late nineteenth century American novelist named Winston Churchill (yes, a different one) who wrote a wonderful series of historical novels from colonial times on down. They are well worth reading. One of these novels, I disremember the particular title at the moment, tells the story of a crucial historical event that took place in the late nineteenth century. A dedicated young Protestant clergyman tries to help the poor of his parish, but finds it to be a losing job and demeaning to the recipients. Suddenly he has a bright idea! Let the government do it!

It was about that time that Americans decided that government could do a better job with the poor than the churches could, and they have seldom looked back since. It's not just a Catholic problem. In fact, the worst people in this regard have been the mainline Protestants. Catholics and Evangelicals still do some genuine missionary and charitable activities, but the liberals prefer to soak the taxpayers. Regretably many Catholic bishops have joined the throng.


24 posted on 01/12/2005 3:10:35 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The Bishops should identify a goal (help the poor) not how to achieve the goal (taxes). Some staff product of St. John's, St. Thomas, St. Bennedict's, or St. Catherine's (I suspect the latter) got hold of the Bishop's signature machine.


25 posted on 01/12/2005 3:24:51 PM PST by Whispering Smith
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Vatican II began a great unraveling of the Roman Catholic Church, which continues apace. Bishops who will not purge their clergy of pedophiles now presume to tell the public that Christianity commands higher taxes and spending for state-run social services. A discredited hierarchy with diminishing support from their own faithful thus courts the secular Left, choosing alliance with them to the hard reforms required to renew the Church.
27 posted on 01/12/2005 6:23:18 PM PST by Rockingham
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on their web site is also a link to the left wing "Childrens Defense Fund".

Isn't that Marian Wright Edelman's "non-profit", where her most significant action was to place her idiot son in the #2 slot, to suck off of the government teat?

My view?

In the inimitable words of Teeeereza Heinz Kerry - Shove It!

28 posted on 01/12/2005 6:27:40 PM PST by jackbill
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