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Boeing bets big on a plastic plane
Chicago Tribune ^ | January 12, 2005 | Michael Oneal and David Greising

Posted on 01/12/2005 9:12:35 AM PST by ConservativeStatement

SEATTLE -- Boeing Co. doesn't often let the public into its secured development center here. But on Tuesday, after months of bad news about defense scandals, trade wars and lost sales, the Chicago-based company finally had something to crow about. While the television cameras rolled, Boeing engineers unveiled a seamless, rivetless, one-piece barrel of carbon-fiber composite that has the unmistakable profile of a jumbo jet's back end. At 22 feet long and 19 feet in diameter, it is a crucial first step in a multibillion-dollar march to prove that the company can build its much anticipated 7E7 Dreamliner, the first passenger jet produced largely from the same kind of reinforced plastic used to make golf club shafts.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 7e7; airbus; airlines; aviation; boeing; chicago; dreamliner; trade
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1 posted on 01/12/2005 9:12:37 AM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan

Well there's a plane I won't be getting on.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 9:15:08 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Maybe they can make it out of transparent aluminum. Just ask some guy named Scotty........


3 posted on 01/12/2005 9:18:32 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Stronger than steel.


4 posted on 01/12/2005 9:19:21 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: Bikers4Bush

Why not? Composite materials have no inherent problems. If the plane is properly designed, it should be even safer than current aircraft.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 9:22:35 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

That was invented waaaay back in 1984 by some chemical engineer.


6 posted on 01/12/2005 9:22:46 AM PST by ruiner
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To: MassRepublicanFlyersFan
The 7E7 is gonna be beautiful.


7 posted on 01/12/2005 9:26:22 AM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Stronger than steel.

That's not the problem. Fastening and joining is the problem.

In a golf club, simply glueing the head on can be adequate. In an airplane there are all kinds of irritating parts that need to be stuck on - engines, APUs, etc. And glue joints are pretty tricky on parts that size.

8 posted on 01/12/2005 9:26:29 AM PST by jimt
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To: Conspiracy Guy

On the ground.


9 posted on 01/12/2005 9:26:58 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: MineralMan

So how are they going to join all the parts, with super glue?


10 posted on 01/12/2005 9:27:52 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Stronger than steel.

Even under high heat? I dont' know...I'm just asking. :-)
11 posted on 01/12/2005 9:28:00 AM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Good. More room in coach for the rest of us.

Seriously, composites are good enough for jet fighters, good enough to be heat shields for all of our astronauts to date, and good enough for cars. . .but not for you ??

12 posted on 01/12/2005 9:30:00 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: Bikers4Bush

It is stonger and more duable then steel. I can't wait.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 9:31:37 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: jimt

They already use it on a smaller scale in avaition. The technology to spin the fibers into large scale seamless shapes already exists.


14 posted on 01/12/2005 9:32:03 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: Bikers4Bush

In the air too!


15 posted on 01/12/2005 9:32:29 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: jimt

They have been gkuing joint in airlines for over ten years, it is in many applications cheaper, easier, and stronger then ribbits.


16 posted on 01/12/2005 9:33:01 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: hiredhand

The heat is not an issue. Composites designed for heat can take more heat than aluminum can.


17 posted on 01/12/2005 9:33:32 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: Bikers4Bush
Yes!

Super Glue. Great stuff.

I was at an event some years ago where Burt Rutan spoke...he said something like....no matter how much you look at nature....no matter how small or how big...you never find a single fastner.

He also offered that, if aircraft had initially been designed and built from composites, you would never be able to get aluminum qualified as a material, today. It fatigues, it crystalizes and cracks, it has bad plastic deformation characteristics....the list of negatives goes on and on.

18 posted on 01/12/2005 9:33:57 AM PST by steve in DC
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To: Bikers4Bush

"So how are they going to join all the parts, with super glue? "

Depends on the part, I'd guess. They'll use whatever fasteners or adhesives are appropriate for the situation. You do know that there are lots of composite planes flying around, right? Just not on this scale.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 9:34:22 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
The heat is not an issue. Composites designed for heat can take more heat than aluminum can.

I was just wondering.... :-) Thanks! :-)
20 posted on 01/12/2005 9:34:45 AM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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