Posted on 01/12/2005 8:35:48 AM PST by Miami Vice
Actually, the treaty was entirely correct if you look at what "Christian nation" means in context. For example, Iran is an "Islamic nation"; Islam is the official established State church. You have to belong to it or you are penalized, and the state supports it and it's institutions. Whereas here in the U.S., while Christianity is the dominant religion and Christian ideals have been used to create our laws, we are not a "Christian nation" in the context that the Barbary Pirates would have understood it, as no Christian denomination was or is an established Church, receiving State support and a priority of place in government, etc.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
Some background about the Tripoli treaty quote that theophobes [good word] like to use. They really like it since that and Jefferson's quote from the letter to the Baptists about the "wall of separation" are pretty much the only ones they have to support their fallacy that the United States is not founded upon religious values.
Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.
They fear Him in the wrong way - in anger, not in reverence.
Not even the present notion of deists. Deists rejected revelation but throught that Christian morality was the same as natural morality and so its precepts were dictated by reason. Washington invoked on many occasions Divine Providence, which is something that the "theophobes" categorically reject. Even "infidels" like Jefferson were far more "Christian" than the "Theophobes" are willing to concede. In short, there was a moral consensus among Americans , as any reader of Tocqueville knows, which was the foundation of its laws. During the past forty years, our national elites have abandoined that consensus and have done everything within their power to pure the laws and government of Christians symbols and sentiments and to impose their own infidelity on the people as a whole.
Any links to part One?
SPOTREP - History - Founders
SPOTREP - History - Founders
I'm sorry I'm not sure what SPOTREP History Founders means
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