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The 'Media Party' is over (CBS' downfall is just the tip of the iceberg)
MSNBC ^ | Updated: 5:12 p.m. ET Jan. 11, 2005 | By Howard Fineman

Posted on 01/12/2005 7:46:09 AM PST by I Gig Gar

WASHINGTON - A political party is dying before our eyes — and I don't mean the Democrats. I'm talking about the "mainstream media," which is being destroyed by the opposition (or worse, the casual disdain) of George Bush's Republican Party; by competition from other news outlets (led by the internet and Fox's canny Roger Ailes); and by its own fraying journalistic standards. At the height of its power, the AMMP (the American Mainstream Media Party) helped validate the civil rights movement, end a war and oust a power-mad president. But all that is ancient history.

Now the AMMP is reeling, and not just from the humiliation of CBS News. We have a president who feels it's almost a point of honor not to hold more press conferences — he's held far fewer than any modern predecessor — and doesn't seem to agree that the media has any "right" to know what's really going in inside his administration. The AMMP, meanwhile, is regarded with ever growing suspicion by American voters, viewers and readers, who increasingly turn for information and analysis only to non-AMMP outlets that tend to reinforce the sectarian views of discrete slices of the electorate.

Yes, I know: A purely objective viewpoint does not exist in the cosmos or in politics. Yes, I know: Today's media foodfights are mild compared with the viciousness of pamphleteers and partisan newspapers of old, from colonial times forward. Yes, I know: The notion of a neutral "mainstream" national media gained a dominant following only in World War II and in its aftermath, when what turned out to be a temporary moderate consensus came to govern the country.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mediabias
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To: I Gig Gar

Yours is in "news/activism"
I reckon that's where it belongs...lol.


61 posted on 01/12/2005 9:12:36 AM PST by onyx
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To: Borges

But this was the case from the beginning, until the Civil War. "Objective" news was, I submit, an aberration that lasted about 100 years. The norm is "biased" news where customers can evaluate products that correctly label themselves at the outset.


62 posted on 01/12/2005 9:13:04 AM PST by LS
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To: VaBthang4

Agree. This is a good line. One of the few insights by an otherwise myopic Fineman.


63 posted on 01/12/2005 9:14:06 AM PST by LS
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To: I Gig Gar

Interesting... the media is now trying to sacrifice itself to save the remains of the Democrat party.


64 posted on 01/12/2005 9:16:10 AM PST by thoughtomator (Rooting for a Jets-Vikings Superbowl!)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Even though the Stone-age Press has been exposed and defeated, they still have their Arrogence!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

65 posted on 01/12/2005 9:16:54 AM PST by bray (The First of 4 More Years!)
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To: I Gig Gar

Limbaugh mentioning this now.


66 posted on 01/12/2005 9:17:29 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: Bahbah

Me, too.


67 posted on 01/12/2005 9:20:09 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

If you have seen it, go to another thread. This is the first time I have seen it.


68 posted on 01/12/2005 9:21:48 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: I Gig Gar

bump and save


69 posted on 01/12/2005 9:23:15 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: NutCrackerBoy

How can you, if you do not know about it?


70 posted on 01/12/2005 9:23:56 AM PST by MamaB (mom to an angel)
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To: beyond the sea
...hey were not after the truth, and it wasn't a "sloppy" story, it was a criminal story!

Those lovable absent-minded Democrats just can't help but be a little "sloppy" at times. You know, fabricating stories based on forged documents; stuffing highly classified documents into socks and then inadvertently destroying them. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy!

71 posted on 01/12/2005 9:26:57 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: NutCrackerBoy
I call it volunteering some time to improve the quality of FR

Cluttering up a thread with off topic posts about posts and posters does not feel like something that improves the quality of FR. imho

72 posted on 01/12/2005 9:34:29 AM PST by Jeff Gordon (Now is the time for all wise men to gloat. FOUR MORE YEARS,)
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To: I Gig Gar

Pretty good appraisal of the situation.


73 posted on 01/12/2005 9:38:01 AM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: onyx

Good. This helps people like me who didn't get to see the original post. Good policy.


74 posted on 01/12/2005 10:23:11 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: Jeff Gordon; onyx; Balding_Eagle; I Gig Gar
Cluttering up a thread with off topic posts about posts and posters does not feel like something that improves the quality of FR. imho.

It was just one post with the helpful information that there was another thread on the same article. This enables reader to read the entries on both threads.

The clutter on this thread came from other people flaming me.

75 posted on 01/12/2005 11:15:01 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Plutarch
Those lovable absent-minded Democrats just can't help but be a little "sloppy" at times. You know, fabricating stories based on forged documents; stuffing highly classified documents into socks and then inadvertently destroying them. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy!

LOL! Yeh just sloppy and stupid, and on Rathergate:

*****

Pat Buchanan the other night on Hardball: "Rather is using 'The Ted Baxter Defense' ............. I didn't know the facts."

CBS - "just a genuine screw up", "checks and balances fell off,"

"no political bias, just haste,"

"the culture of the newsroom wore them down"

Moonves - "just a mistake,"

"Rather was just involved in compounding the error,"

Rather didn't have enough time for the story with a hurricane and the Republican Convention taking his time.(Right!)

"just a clouded judgment."

Yep, like Hillary and her 'Cattle Futures'! No insider trading with her, she just wisely scrutinized the Wall Street Journal.

Yep. Like Al Gore was sometimes inattentive and missed parts of fund-raising meetings. He drank a lot of iced tea during meetings, which could have necessitated a restroom break. Yep.

*******

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1318323/posts

Thoughts on the Rather Nixonian CBS Hangout (The Never Ending Coverup)

76 posted on 01/12/2005 11:16:12 AM PST by beyond the sea (Andrea Mitchell is Barbra Streisand on peyote ......and the north end of a south bound mule.)
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To: I Gig Gar

I printed this out and highlighted parts of it last evening.
I couldn't believe Howard was being this honest!!! Wonder how the rest of the LSM will take this?


77 posted on 01/12/2005 11:21:04 AM PST by meema
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To: NutCrackerBoy
A quick perusal of your forum page tells me I am correct:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/user-posts?id=113828
You do act as thread nanny on a regular and repeated basis.
I count 13 "already posted here's" and I may have missed some.
And that's only on your first forum page.






52 posted on 01/12/2005 8:49:53 AM PST by onyx


78 posted on 01/12/2005 11:21:08 AM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
It was just one post on this thread that did no harm. Your attacks are not welcome.
79 posted on 01/12/2005 11:37:48 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy


Nor is your whining FR mail.
Grow up.


80 posted on 01/12/2005 11:38:43 AM PST by onyx
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