Sanford 2008

The State ^ | January 11, 2005 | Gould Sheinin

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

It's possible.

I guess we'll just have to see who throws their hat into the ring, four years from now.

[traviskicks]

His top priorities are lowering taxes and school choice. Thos are mine too, along with cutting gov (which he is for too). So he's got my vote. I'd rather have him then these rhinos like Guilani and Pataki who are more like professioanl politicians and press hogs then anything els.e

[Gipper08]

I will say it again I love Mark Sanford,and he is the most conservative Governor.If he runs(he wont! his dedication is to McCain)I will support him(Assuming a true conservative doesn't run)I will not sit here and bash him but since you brought up ratings and the ACU perhaps you could explain his last year in Congress getting a 72 from the ACU.A 72 is darned near Specter territory.He got a 76 that year from the National Tax Limitation Committee.A rating that a true conservative would not get.His rating from liberal groups also reflect his tendency to be a McCain moderate on some issues.
Aclu 19,Americans for Democratic Action 20,League of Conservation Voters 38!The most disappointing rating was when AFSCME gave him a 22!!! All true conservatives get zeros,5 or less from these groups.
Mark Sanford is part Ronald Reagan part John McCain!
at this stage I am holding out for a true 100% Reagan conservative.Before we conservatives sell out SOME of our principals (in picking a candidate who will not run any way)we should look to the house and get a viable,articulate,Reagan conservative.SAnford's position on immigration is unacceptable.

[bmwcyle]

Miss him

[RockinRight]

Sanford scored better on his amnesty positions than most congressmen did (except of course the great Tancredo).

His lower ratings reflect his libertarian bent on some issues. There are some things he votes against on principle that the ACU supports but he votes against them kinda like a Ron Paul.

He could beef up his immigration stance with the right running mate.

But-four years is a long time. We have to see what happens.

[RockinRight]

Well, then. Who DO you like in '08? Tancredo? Inhofe? I'd support either one but neither one can win.

[RockinRight]

His ACU rating in 1999 was 92, BTW, and 86 lifetime. Be fair to the guy.

During his 6 years in the House-

1995 - 88
1996 - 95
1997 - 88
1998 - 72
1999 - 92
2000 - 77

[Gipper08]

I support Mike Pence of Indiana.I do not care that He is not a Governor.If Pence was a janitor at a local McDonalds I would still support him.He is a true conservative that can unite the social and fiscal wing of the party(and immigration wing)I will keep an open mind about Sanford if you Sanford people keep an open mind about Pence.Sanford is a much better choice than George Allen in my opinion.We will have to wait and see.

[Gipper08]

86 lifetime is not that great.We can do better.

[RockinRight]

I like Mike Pence. And I agree, he'd be a good candidate even if he were a janitor, but the guy is unknown, even more so than Mark Sanford.

Sanford's a maverick. He's not a "beltway" boy, and that might be why he likes McCain (the whole "maverick") thing. He is more conservative than McCain, however.

Could Mike Pence actually get the nomination? And, could he win?

[Gipper08]

I believe that Pence's and Sanford's name ID both are next to nothing so that doesn't concern me.Mike Pence could win the nomination because he can do what other candidate could do 100% which is unite the Reagan wing.I say there is no candidate or member of congress who could claim to be to the right of Pence fiscally or socially and that is the key.If we move now we can have the Family Research Council and the Club for Growth united behind the same candidate instead of Socials lining up behind Brownback or Allen and fiscals behind Owens and Sanford.If the Reagan wing is divided then Guiliani will walk away with the nomination.
Sanford is great but we need to total Reagan counter revolution not a 75% one.I want Toomey,Coburn,Tancredo and Herman Cain in the Cabinet.Not McCain ,Lindsey Graham,Hagel and Don Nickels.I want a candidate who talks about Reagan and the Reagan vision every freaking speech.
We Know getting a True Reagan conservative who is viable is easier said than done.Most of us realize why Goldwater got crushed and why Reagan won in landslides:COMMUNICATION.That is why Pence is our only chance sometimes when he talks you would think he is a moderate due to his lack of fire and brimstone(he saves that for behind closed doors).He has a positive Reaganesque communication style.He can articulate true conservatism without being easily demonized.I will do whatever it takes to Draft Mike Pence!Who else is talking about rolling back No child Left Behind,The Medicare entitlement and abolishing the Department of Education these days?

[RockinRight]

Who else is talking about rolling back No child Left Behind,The Medicare entitlement and abolishing the Department of Education these days?

I do like that about him (Pence). What would you think of pairing up a Sanford with a guy like Brownback or Allen, just for sh*ts and giggles?

[RockinRight]

Coburn could make a good President someday, too.

[Gipper08]

Coburn is the only guy who could make a claim to be more socially and fiscally conservative than Pence.The only problem is he has had two bouts with cancer and his communication style is more of a dividing Goldwater than a uniting Reagan.He sometimes says things that get him in trouble(Which I love)and Pence doesn't have that problem and would be harder to demonize.I have decided to dedicate my life to a draft Pence movement.50 others(so far in three weeks)have signed on.If it doesn't work out then I look to Coburn then to whatever the next best thing is(Sanford,Allen,Owens)I think at this stage a great patriot like yourself could push Sanford and Pence at the same time.

[RockinRight]

I like Pence. Where do I sign on?

I still like Sanford, but at this stage there's no reason not to push a couple guys, especially to make McCain and Giuliani less relevant-I don't want either one of those clowns!

I still think Sanford is more conservative than you give him credit for. Did you read the story about when he took piglets into the statehouse in SC to protest pork-barrel spending by the legislature, when they overrode his vetoes? The guy has balls and a unique sense of humor, which are two things I like about him.