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Evidently you missed my point entirely. He showed his cards when he said "The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God." Those are HIS words, not mine. I merely quoted him. That is the entire basis and reason for the theory of evolution. It seeks the origins of a universe in which THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS IRRELEVANT. If you can't see or understand that, I will pray for your eyes to be opened. Yes, anyone and everyone is free to believe in a god that created a universe in a way in which he is irrelevant. I believe in a God that is quite relevant and I believe He was quite relevant in the creation of the universe.

The Bible clearly states that God created the animal life and humans and made them to reproduce after their own kind. Again, you are free to not believe it, and to believe whatever you want.

Nowhere did I "insist that one can't believe in God and evolution". I don't think it's very logical, and requires some pretty nimble mental gymnastics but it's no doubt possible.

And now to quote you..."It's so very common, I'm not picking on you. It would just be refreshing to have a thread where people argued only the points that are actually made."

Touche!

Evidently you missed my point entirely. He showed his cards when he said "The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God." Those are HIS words, not mine. I merely quoted him. That is the entire basis and reason for the theory of evolution. It seeks the origins of a universe in which THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS IRRELEVANT.

Evolution says nothing whatsoever regarding the origins of the universe. You only reveal your stunning ignorance of evolution when you make such laughable statements.

Evidently you missed my point entirely. He showed his cards when he said "The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God." Those are HIS words, not mine. I merely quoted him. That is the entire basis and reason for the theory of evolution. It seeks the origins of a universe in which THE EXISTENCE OF GOD IS IRRELEVANT. If you can't see or understand that, I will pray for your eyes to be opened.

Again, here is what was said:

Narby:"The theory of evolution is irrelevant to the subject of God."
(and he goes in to say God could have created evolution)

GLDNGUN: "And that's the problem. God is NOT irrelevant."

He did not in any way, shape, or form say that God is irrelevant - period. He said that the theory of evolution is not relevant to the subject of God. To accuse him of "showing his cards", you must turn his words around - shoving words in his mouth that he did not say or mean.

As made clear by his comments as a whole, he was saying that belief in the theory of evolution does not negate God, or belief in God - they are different subjects. He made it clear that he loves God and finds Him relevant to his own life.

I wont belabor this with you, as I am convinced that even you know the difference, your denials to the contrary.

Anyway, the only conflict is not between the existence of God and the TOE, but between a literal interpretation of Genesis and the TOE.

For you to say that "the entire basis and reason for the theory of evolution" is to seek a way to make the existence of God irrelevant is wrong, and offensively so, to those Christians who love God and still agree - right or wrong - with the TOE. And it flies in the face of your claim now that " Nowhere did I "insist that one can't believe in God and evolution".

Then you say:

" And now to quote you..."It's so very common, I'm not picking on you. It would just be refreshing to have a thread where people argued only the points that are actually made."

Touche!

You know... I said that as a kind and friendly gesture... Yet you - a "Christian" - throw in my face as as a cut, full of sarcasm. That says a lot.