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To: GLDNGUN
I'm not demonizing anyone. I'm pointing out the fact that you can't believe just any preacher that comes along and Jim Jones is the example.

The discovery institute started this mess with "creation science" 25 years ago. Many of the same professional creationists are still at the old game, simply shifting their semantics to "ID" and abandoning the 6000 year old earth nonsense because they couldn't sell it anymore.

Sometime soon, I predict they will abandon their attack on "macro" evolution too, and simply say that science has things about right, just that God had his fingers in the game. But gullible Christians will still send them money.

172 posted on 01/11/2005 2:36:25 PM PST by narby
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To: narby

"The discovery institute started this mess with "creation science" 25 years ago. Many of the same professional creationists are still at the old game, simply shifting their semantics to "ID" and abandoning the 6000 year old earth nonsense because they couldn't sell it anymore."

Narby, the Institute of Creation Research and the ID folks are two separate camps. ICR, with which I identify my basic beliefs, is a strictly special creationist group. The LeHigh Biochemist that is pusing ID is a theistic evolutionist. These two groups do not get along at all. They certainly aren't conspiring to get creationism in the schools. Theistic evolutionists don't have any more respect for creationists than you do.

The charge that ID is watered down creationism just isn't so. It is different folks, with different agendas.

The only thing the two groups have in common is that both believe in the necessity of some form of creative or guiding deity.

Denigrate both groups if you must, but stop falsely stating they are the same. That is a falsehood.


188 posted on 01/11/2005 5:42:08 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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