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To: narby

"The discovery institute started this mess with "creation science" 25 years ago. Many of the same professional creationists are still at the old game, simply shifting their semantics to "ID" and abandoning the 6000 year old earth nonsense because they couldn't sell it anymore."

Narby, the Institute of Creation Research and the ID folks are two separate camps. ICR, with which I identify my basic beliefs, is a strictly special creationist group. The LeHigh Biochemist that is pusing ID is a theistic evolutionist. These two groups do not get along at all. They certainly aren't conspiring to get creationism in the schools. Theistic evolutionists don't have any more respect for creationists than you do.

The charge that ID is watered down creationism just isn't so. It is different folks, with different agendas.

The only thing the two groups have in common is that both believe in the necessity of some form of creative or guiding deity.

Denigrate both groups if you must, but stop falsely stating they are the same. That is a falsehood.


188 posted on 01/11/2005 5:42:08 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
The only thing the two groups have in common is that both believe in the necessity of some form of creative or guiding deity.

That's like saying the feminists and the enviros are two different groups. But the result is the same, those guys voted for Kerry and the IDers and creationists both have dieties to push.

189 posted on 01/11/2005 6:32:53 PM PST by narby
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