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Sanctimonious Smoking Nanny
Denver Post ^ | January 10, 2005 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 01/10/2005 10:52:26 AM PST by aynrandy

Hide your smokes and unhealthy contraband. The tyrants of wellbeing are back.

Apparently, the Denver City Council is never too busy to intercede with some good old-fashioned social engineering. And soon enough, smoking in restaurants and bars will be banned.

It's enough to make a holier-than-thou politician - with pristine pink lungs - shriek with delight.

Jeanne Faatz, at this point, is the lone voice of reason on the council. She still believes in trivial things like free enterprise and property rights.

She's sort of an outsider. And although she won't admit it on record, I'm certain the other council members put shaving cream in her shoes, lock her out of meetings and blow spitballs at her.

Don't misunderstand me. Faatz hates smoking. She detests the habit so strongly that she can't stop complaining about it - it causes her to be hoarse and sneeze and makes her stomach coil. She hates being put in this position, protecting smokers.

But Faatz, in contrast to the missionaries of healthful living, appreciates that the ban is not a smoking issue but a matter of freedom.

Faatz loathes sitting next to a smoker in a restaurant. Who doesn't? But she does something extremely peculiar: She gets up, walks out and finds an establishment where she doesn't have to.

"My decision comes from the fact that you have private ownership in business, and they should have the right to target whatever customers they feel the marketplace will give them," she explains. "If, indeed, nobody frequented a smoking establishment, I say, 'Right on, the marketplace has spoken."'

Faatz believes choices and decisions are key in a free society. It's expedient to say, "Yuck, I don't like smoke." But ask yourself this: Do you think government should dictate how a person runs a business? What about customers? Should they be allowed to decide whether they want an all-smoking restaurant or a nonsmoking restaurant?

What if the Denver City Council concluded that cellphones at work should be banned because they have been linked to brain tumors?

Are there justifiable reasons for intervention? Sure. If there is contaminated food or other hidden health issues, government must protect citizens. Full disclosure is imperative. But when the sign in front of a steakhouse reads "smoking allowed," adults should be able to make their own decisions.

Besides, a steady diet of steaks wrapped with bacon is probably apt to kill you a lot faster than secondhand smoke.

We all know what's next. "What about those unfortunate, powerless, coughing employees?" The logical answer given by Faatz is simply that "it is a person's choice where they work." Who is forcing you to work in a smoke-filled diner?

But for the moment, let's advance the argument further: If everyone with a risky job should be protected from all hazards, where would we end up?

You realize the stress a stockbroker goes through? What about the stress a cop experiences? Yes, stress kills far more people than the wildly overstated threat of secondhand smoke. And who can deny the dangers of being a bike messenger, a cabbie or a firefighter?

Smoke Free Denver, another group of sanctimonious nanny types, wants to sabotage freedom for smokers and property owners "to protect the health of Denver residents, workers and visitors from the harmful effects of secondhand smoke."

Well, what about the claims of tens of thousands of deaths due to secondhand smoke?

It's junk science. The University of Chicago's Dr. John Bailar, a critic of the tobacco industry, has produced a detailed analysis in the New England Journal of Medicine debunking the supposed link between secondhand smoke and heart disease. His study is one of many.

But if you don't believe them, there are long lists of smoke-free establishments for you to go to. Enjoy.

David Harsanyi's column appears Monday and Thursday. He can be reached at 303-820-1255 or dharsanyi@denverpost.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: addiction; addicts; denver; lowbirthweight; nannystate; propertyrights; pufflist; righttomakeyoustink; smokingban; stench
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To: Raycpa

I dont believe a word any government agency has to offer on the subject, as far as Im concerned liberals are totally corrupt they will do anything to cheat their fellow Americans. Since you seem to find their policies to your liking you must be one of them!


241 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:12 PM PST by claptrap (Recent republican votes leave me wondering if they are all just republicrats!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Its not a tax on me.


242 posted on 01/10/2005 8:08:38 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: claptrap

And you don't believe homes at heat before 1850.

243 posted on 01/10/2005 8:09:51 PM PST by Raycpa (Alias, VRWC_minion,)
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To: Raycpa
Its not a tax on me.

It will be. Next comes "Fee" increases, pop taxes, gas taxes, diesel taxes, sales taxes, income taxes, property taxes, death taxes, etc.

244 posted on 01/10/2005 8:12:01 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("I can't name a single accomplishment of Debbie Stabenow." - Rep. Leon Drolet)
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To: Raycpa

Maybe since you dont like smoking you could perhaps move to
say the yukon and live outside where there a very few smokers in fact there arent very many anyones out there
and you could ban every practice imaginable youd be King of the Yukon!


245 posted on 01/10/2005 8:12:38 PM PST by claptrap (Recent republican votes leave me wondering if they are all just republicrats!)
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To: Raycpa
Nobody's forcing you to breathe in the smoke,but you and your ilk want smokers to be chased out of everywhere smoking used to be legal. The idiotic new rules,against smoking OUTSIDE,it utterly ridiculous and contemptible.

Do you eat fast food?

246 posted on 01/10/2005 8:13:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Raycpa
The state wide bans will be expanded in more states and the driving force is in fact big restaurant chains.

You are incorrect about more statewide bans, but totally correct about the chains. I guess you have been actually paying attention to my posts on this subject. :)

And you and the rest of the anti smokers sit back and gleefully gloat in the demise of the local taverns.

Enjoy your Virgin Mary in the smoke-free Ruby Tuesday's......because that is exactly where this is all going.

247 posted on 01/10/2005 8:15:54 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Mogger
What gives you the right to dictate to a private business what is allowed?

If YOU don't like smoke and the establishment allows it, take your damn business elsewhere! Or do you like giving the jack boot of state even more power and influence over everyone elses lives so long as it follows you own opions on the matter.

BTW: You should change the motto on your profile page (Live Free or Die). It's obvious you don't believe in it.

248 posted on 01/10/2005 8:15:55 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: aynrandy
Smoke Smoke Smoke That Cigarette
Merle Travis/Tex Ritter

1. Now I'm a fella with a heart of gold - With the ways of a gentleman I've been told
A kind of a guy that wouldn't even harm a flea
But if me and a certain character met - The guy that invented the cigarette
I'd murder that son of a gun in the first degree

2. It ain't that I don't smoke myself - And I don't reckon they'll hinder your health
I've smoked them all my life and I ain't dead yet
But nicotine slaves are all the same - At a pettin’ party or a poker game
Everythin's gotta stop while you have that cigarette

Smoke smoke smoke that cigarette puff puff puff and if you smoke yourself to death
Tell St Peter at the Golden Gate that you hate to make him wait
But you just gotta have another cigarette

3. Now at a game of chance the other night - Ol' Dame Fortune was a doin' me right
The kings and queens just kept on comin' round
And I got a full and I bettet high - But my bluff didn't work on a certain guy
He just kept a risin' and layin' his money down

4. He'd raise me and I'd raise him - And I sweated blood you gotta sink or swim
He finally called and he couldn’t raise the bet
I said “aces full pal how about you” - He said “I'll tell you in a minute or two
But right now I just gotta have another cigarette”

Smoke smoke smoke...
[ piano ]

5. Now the other night I had me a date - With the cutest little gal in the fifty states
One of them highbred up-town fancy little dames
She said she loved me and it seemed to me - That things were just about like they oughta be
So hand in hand we strolled down Lover's Lane

6. She was oh so far from a chunk of ice - And our smoochin' party was a goin' real nice
So help me Hannah and I think I'd of been there yet
I give her a kiss and a little squeeze - And she said “would you excuse me please
But I just gotta have another cigarette”

Smoke smoke smoke... X 2
You just gotta have another cigarette
249 posted on 01/10/2005 8:16:24 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: annyokie

Dear Lord woman!! And here I thought you were this prim and proper gal...roflol


250 posted on 01/10/2005 8:16:43 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Gabz; annieokie; exnavychick

Not you too. First I read that annie drinks and smokes, now you say you smoke too. On top of that you send your children to public schools. Oh the corrupted company I have been keeping! NOT! I love every minute of it.


251 posted on 01/10/2005 8:18:40 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Gabz
We used to like to vacation in Maine.We stayed at THE best place,ate in their special gourmet restaurant (as opposed to the "cheap" one) and made forays out to other local restaurants as well. We also shopped (well,I did...my husband went for walks and bought ice cream,while I browsed and bought),and we took boat trips,etc.

We were planning our next yearly visit,when we got a new brochure in the mail,from the place we stayed in.IT WAS NOW A SMOKE FREE ZONE ...ENTIRELY...INCLUDING OUTSIDE,BY THE OCEAN.That was that;goodbye Maine.

252 posted on 01/10/2005 8:24:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Gabz
I've got the grand slam of getting insulted here....I am a smoker against smoking bans and increased tobacco taxes, I am divorced and remarried, my only child goes to public school, and I don't give a hoot that some of my friends are gay.

Hmmmmm....You sound like one of those "hyphenated" name types....lol

253 posted on 01/10/2005 8:25:21 PM PST by MarIboro
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To: PleaseNoMore

LOL...great minds think alike, and all that jazz. :)


254 posted on 01/10/2005 8:25:21 PM PST by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: annyokie

No you aren't! LOL


255 posted on 01/10/2005 8:26:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mogger

Rabid anti smokers die earlier then smokers.
They choke to death on their own bile.


256 posted on 01/10/2005 8:26:40 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: Judith Anne
They realize what they are saying. But they are so set in their talking points that they don't realize there are more of us than they think there is.

They have a stereotype idea of ALL smokers....but they fail to realize that not all, or even a majority, of smokers are the toothless, semi-literate, trailer residing ignoramuses they claim we are.

I've actually met more ANTIs that fit that description than smokers.....of course that description also tends to describe the koolaid drinking libs...............interesting correlation.

Hmmmmmmmmmm......I hadn't thought about that. And we know how the antis love to believe that correlation equals causation, we might actually have something here.
257 posted on 01/10/2005 8:27:06 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Raycpa

In a small diner? the waitress.


258 posted on 01/10/2005 8:28:36 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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To: Raycpa

Rabid anti smokers die earlier then smokers.
They choke to death on their own bile.


259 posted on 01/10/2005 8:28:49 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (expert, break it down, ex = has been, spurt = drip under pressure.)
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To: Raycpa

Do the FReeper world a favor - and a favor for your blood pressure and stay off the smoking threads.

You are being obnoxious and annoying, but because you are a long time FReeper I will not hit abuse on you...........but I'm not everyone and you actually deserve it.


260 posted on 01/10/2005 8:32:52 PM PST by Gabz (Anti-smoker gnatzies...small minds buzzing in your business..............SWAT'EM)
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