Posted on 01/10/2005 9:37:05 AM PST by quidnunc
London, England – Muslims living in Britain are facing two choices; either to migrate or to join the jihad, a key Islamic figure has said.
Sheikh Omar Bakir Muhammed, leader of the now officially disbanded Islamic militant group Al Muhajiroun told United Press International Saturday that as the covenant of security under which Muslims previously lived in Britain has been broken, Muslims must now consider themselves at war.
"And I declare we should ourselves join the global Islamic camp against the global crusade camp," he said.
What violated the covenant, according to Sheikh Omar, was the anti-terrorist legislation introduced in the United Kingdom after the 9/11 attacks. If the British government would review these policies and release those detained without trial in Belmarsh prison and elsewhere, Muslims could live at peace in Britain. Otherwise, they must prepare themselves to fight.
"The response from the Muslims will be horrendous if the British government continues in the way it treats Muslims," he said, adding that suicide bombings were a possibility.
He called on Muslims to form a new coalition united behind al-Qaida with Osama Bin Laden as their leader.
This jihadi group would replace Al-Muhajiroun, which is no longer needed, he said. By dissolving such parties the Muslim community will have to come together, and as the judge of the Sharia court in Britain, he is the one to unite them, he added.
Those who did not wish to either leave or fight would not be regarded as Muslims, said Sheikh Omar, condemning in particular the Muslim Council of Britain for urging the Muslim community to cooperate with the British government.
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Don't let the door hit you in the behind too hard on the way out. If Sharia law is so wonderful, Go back to Saudi Arabia or whatever "wonderful" Muslim country you came from.
I agree. There are times when I find myself screaming in my mind (and sometimes physically) "DON'T THEY SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING?? IT'S SUICIDE!" But it happens with little more than a whimper from the local populace.
Things are still on an even keel because the Muslims are only at 10-12% of the population. With til they're 25-30%. THen the fight will be engaged for certain. Another 30 years or so?
It's starting in The Netherlands and Denmark already.
Ah, thanks!
The Brits are not weak; they are merely diddling up the wrong tree as far as 'homeland security' goes. They have allowed the most hostile Islamic elements to move in and incite hatred against their host country, and what has the Gub'mint done to make them safer? Disarm all the real Englishmen, even their pocketknives. I suppose we'll have to ship them over a boatload of weapons on lend-lease...again...
"I don't know what the brits are supposed to fight with. They handed in their guns, remember? By LAW! Thats also somethimg that people seem to forget."
Try box cutters. I sense your statement is true, in that many people do not realize Britain did away with personal gun ownership. One thing that is not recoginzed in doing this, wss that many of their younger people who would have learned early as how to handle a firearm, go hunting, in short get exposer to the outdoors etc., will no longer do so. Result: Fewer next generation soldiers that are adapted to military life. Seems like a so what deal until the British Army and Royal Marines find themselves unable to find youth that are suitable for miltiary service. Same thing will happen in America. Everything has a counter action.
I suppose we'll have to ship them over a boatload of weapons on lend-lease...again...
Anyhow Godwinson wouldn't have lost to the Bastard if he hadn't been roughed up in a prior clash with us Norwegians, which he won, though not without luck.
"The Brits are not weak; they are merely diddling up the wrong tree as far as 'homeland security' goes. They have allowed the most hostile Islamic elements to move in and incite hatred against their host country....".
Quite sadly I think we can almost put America into the same shoes the way things are going. We read in the 9/11 report and so many other places, about how many Muslims assemble in this country, and are trained or how should I say, encouraged to actively work agaist America. We due to our framework allow all to come here and worship as they please.
Now we have Immans who preach jihad all over the USA.
Just wait until they want to make their own state.
"Britistine"
I think sadly of the words of William Blake: "We'll build a new Jerusalem in England's green and pleasant land." The nation of common law, of Magna Carta, of the Enlightenment, not to mention Shakespeare, Wordwsorth, Keats, Vaughan Williams, Elgar, ad infinitum, may fall into barbarism. "O tempora, o mores!"
"Just wait until they want to make their own state.
"Britistine""
That will happen. It is inevitable the way things are going.
And in America, lets say they demand all Americans to vacate California, then they can all move there and rename it lets say "Mecca II".
The point is that Britain has been radi cally changed any number of times from without and within throughout recorrded history.
In addition to William, British awas radically changed by Henry VIII, Elizabeth I, James I, Cromwell Charles II and others.
Currently it is again being transformed by a combination of French philosophers in the guise of post-modernism and Islam.
The national government and local governments are truckling in the face of Muslim ultamatums.
Mob rule is apparently the order of the day since BBC honchos and playwrights are in hiding in the face of death threats, and animal rights extremists have succeeded in getting fox hunting banned.
islamic jihadism is a spreading cancer in the world. its sad that more people are interested in being politically correct than recognizing the threat of this vermin.
Come on. The French po-mo philosophers, who by the way have been out of vogue even on the Seine for some years now, were always mostly laughed out of court in Britain. Oxford and Cambridge are not UC Berkeley, after all.
As to Islam, sure, there are too many Muslims there to anybody's taste except the Muslims. However, this is bunk:
The national government and local governments are truckling in the face of Muslim ultamatums.
Really? What ultimatums then? And where is the truckling, exactly?
Mob rule is apparently the order of the day since BBC honchos and playwrights are in hiding in the face of death threats, and animal rights extremists have succeeded in getting fox hunting banned.
Not sure what hiding honchos you refer to, but obviously you have something specific in mind. However, I wouldn't lose sleep over the ban on fox hunting - "the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible", as Oscar Wilde put it. It's not lack the loss of that ridiculous sport will make the Britons any less tough. Rule Britannia!
Truckle – To be servile or submissive
The city of Leeds wished to return a historic statue of a wild boar which was damaged during WW II to its place in a city park.
They abandoned the effort when some Muslims said thast the statue of a pis was offensive to them and they would destroy it if it was replaced.
In one of the boroughs of London a billboard advertising women's lingeré was removed when some Muslims said thast it was offensive to them.
Mob rule is apparently the order of the day since BBC honchos and playwrights are in hiding in the face of death threats, and animal rights extremists have succeeded in getting fox hunting banned. Not sure what hiding honchos you refer to, but obviously you have something specific in mind. However, I wouldn't lose sleep over the ban on fox hunting - "the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible", as Oscar Wilde put it. It's not lack the loss of that ridiculous sport will make the Britons any less tough. Rule Britannia!
The governor of the BBC is behind police protection because of death threats over the airing of the Jerry Springer opers.
The playwright who wrote that play about the Sikhs which caused a riot is in hiding because of death threats.
Oh yes, and read that truckling letter written by energy minister Mike O'Brien that was published in Muslim Weekly.
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