Bloggers found out most of this in 2 hours - they didn't need 110 days...
Posted on 01/10/2005 7:32:00 AM PST by Thanatos
Off by one digit ... pretty good just going by memory. Further, a PO Box address for a military installation is considered, and in my experience, unusual.
You don't understand "proof". It is a word that has meaning, and meaningfulness. Yet your assertion that we can not "prove" something is no more than saying that the word and concept "proof" is meaningless.
Why? Because exacting proofs are impossible -- Godel's Theorem. "Proof" at some intrinsic level becomes subjective, the depth to which a demonstration must go has not bottom for any "fact" if one is exacting to the degree you sugggest, That is -- NOTHING is proveable by your metric. Yet things are proved all the time -- to some level of "reasonability". Even the LAW recognizes this aspect of proof. The concept of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
And it is beyond even the strictist of reasonable doubts that those documents are forgeries.
That's a lot of dough! And they allow Rather to stick around for two more months?
Your point is mine exactly. There is never 100% proof" and we never needed it.
They needed 99.9%.... and didn't get 1%
Because with him gone quickly, losses would double.
The "CBs Evening News with Wayne Whiplash" wouldn't draw too many viewers.
I thought your post was very powerful, btw. With that one exception. A great post.
1) The documents were demonstrably forged.
2) The forgery was so transparent and crude, it could not have escaped the attention of a minimally competent journalist. To believe that the CBS News organization was not aware of the forgery before the segment was produced, one would have to believe that not one member of that organization is even minimally competent.
3) It cannot be established whether the forgeries were concocted within the CBS News organization, or whether the organization as a whole was merely a knowing accessory to the crime.
4) Without knowing this, the motive for the forgery cannot be ascertained. It may have been done to defraud CBS, or it may have been done by CBS to facilitate the 60 Minutes segment.
5) That said, the motive for producing the segment with what were known to be forged and fraudulent documents is clear, given the CBS News organization's history of extreme left-wing bias. The motive was to subvert the American electoral process, by changing the outcome of a U.S. Presidential election through deliberate fraud.
How about the CBS Evening News with Brit Hume?
I just heard on Fox that it took Blogers 18 1/2 minutes to react to this story.
Under contract at Fox. Happy there.
The font used in the documents did not exist in that form when the documents were supposedly produced. The pseudokerning in the documents was a 1980's invention.
The only loophole would be the possible existence of closed timelike loops. A time machine, in the vernacular. It can't currently be ruled out, physically, but before we can rightly consider the possibility, CBS should offer it as an explanation.
So CERTAINLY they have the ORIGINAL typed and hand signed letters for examination? Not just "copies"...
Thought so...
Lieutenant Colonel Burkett had told Mapes on either September 4 or 5 that he received the documents from Chief Warrant Officer Conn.So a liar confesses that nobody [except CBS] believes his tale; nonetheless, he's called an "unimpeachable" source.Mapes told the Panel thatLieutenant Colonel Burkett told her that Chief Warrant Officer Conn, if contacted by Mapes, would not confirm that he had provided the documents to him.
I don't know if ya'll have seen this part:
____________________________________________
Knox, an outspoken critic of President Bush
and an admirer of Rather, told the Panel:
· She did not remember Lieutenant Bush’s being ordered to take a physical by Lieutenant Colonel Killian.
· She did not remember Lieutenant Bush’s being suspended from flying status by Lieutenant Colonel Killian.
· She did not remember typing any documents like the four Killian documents that appeared in the September 8 Segment.
· She did not recall that Lieutenant Bush ever tried to get out of drill.
· She did not recall that Lieutenant Bush ever failed to show up for drill. She did remember that Lieutenant Bush was trying to secure a transfer to Alabama, but she never knew the outcome of the transfer. She did not recall Lieutenant Colonel Killian’s being upset regarding the transfer.
· She did not recall having any trouble with Lieutenant Bush, and she did not recall Lieutenant Colonel Killian’s having any trouble with Lieutenant Bush. She stated that Lieutenant Colonel Killian liked Lieutenant Bush.
· She stated that Lieutenant Colonel Killian was a private and professional man who would not have discussed Lieutenant Bush in front of anyone.
· She said, hypothetically, if someone did not come to drill, Lieutenant Colonel Killian would be upset.
· She said that she did not recall any conversations regarding General Staudt trying to “sugar coat” Lieutenant Bush’s Evaluation Report.
· She said that there was only one type of typewriter in the office during 1972-73 and that she thinks that it was an Olympia manual. She confirmed that the Olympia manual had a superscript “th” key, but did not recall whether it had proportional spacing. She also stated that at some point the office switched to the IBM Selectric but that she thought that was around 1975. Knox could not confirm that the IBM Selectric had a superscript “th” key, but she thought that it probably did.
· Regarding the Killian documents, she confirmed for the Panel that she did not type them because if she did, they all would have been in proper TexANG format. She noted several inconsistencies from TexANG format in the documents: 1) the headings on certain of the documents were too far to the right; they should have been
110 At the second meeting with Knox, one of the Panel’s counsel was with her at her Houston home to provide her
with copies of the Killian documents about which the Panel was questioning her.
199 perfectly centered; 2) the signature block would also have been centered111; 3) Texas Air National Guard should have been abbreviated “TexANG” instead of USAF/TexANG; and 4) the TexANG would not have used the word “billets,” since this is an Army or Navy term.
The Panel cannot determine whether Knox was more accurate with Rather and the Dallas
Morning News or in her two Panel interviews. The Panel believes that in all instances she sought
to be truthful and discussed 30-year-old events to the best of her recollection. The Panel, however, cannot conclude with any confidence that Knox confirmed the content of the documents used on the September 8 Segment.
Yes, I've read the whole report three times now,
and I am not happy with the panel's failure to
reach sound (and apparent) conclusions.
My head is exploding over the Hackworth stuff,
and a poster eased my pain by reminding me that
Hackworth first came into the national spotlite
via Adniral Boorda's unearned medal and subsequent
suicide. Now THAT fact, is causing me to ponder
WHY Hackworth supported Kerry and (according to another
poster) "dissed" the Swifties?
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